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Re: Skeptic Wanted

From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 00:15:52 -0700
Archived: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:18:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Skeptic Wanted

>From: James Molesworth <jtmol1.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:33:26 +1000
>Subject: Re: Skeptic Wanted

>>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:43:52 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Skeptic Wanted


>G'day to all.

>Thank you Frank for your reply.

>Your statements regarding the best ufologists being the best
>skeptics was indeed precisely my contention - if ufologists are
>doing their job properly, there is no need whatsoever for
>'skeptics' to be involved. The issue of bias is entirely beside
>the point, as researchers in all fields are permitted to be
>biased, so long as their research is nonetheless conducted in a
>proper, rigorous manner.


>On a more useful note for the purpose to which this thread was
>originally posted, I do have a fairly large collection of papers
>written by scholars in fields such as sociology and psychology
>on the topic of UFOs and abduction etc. in which a considerable
>amount of research appears to have been undertaken despite the
>'skeptical' views of the authors. if it would be of any
>assistance, I would be happy to reproduce the titles and authors
>- perhaps one of them would be willing to act as a skeptic in an

>Again, please do forgive my interminable long-windedness.

Again (and in advance), please do forgive my equally
interminable and long-winded reply and endorsement of the
principles you cited in your post. I, too, sometimes have to ask
myself, am I just too verbose, or merely excessively loquacious?
Ahem. Ipso facto. Caveat emptor.

Uhm, all kidding aside, James, I think you said some very
necessary and appropriate things. Kudos, etc.

I, for one, _would_ like to see some of the names, and related
titles of cogent papers, of those you consider among the very
best, skeptical in the truest sense, and scientifically legit
presentations and statements of some of the, say, top 10, of the
pantheon you cite above, on the UFO subject.

We all could use a more objective understanding of and reality
check about the philosophy of science as actually conducted and
in relation to the UFO phenomenon. So I endorse and request your
further comment and specific recommendations. Others? (thanking
you, also, in wordy humility, in advance...)


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