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Re: Forged Documents

From: Stan Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:02:42 -0300
Archived: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:59:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Forged Documents


>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:55:34 +0200
>Subject: Re: Forged Documents

>>From: Greg Sandow <greg.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:13:38 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Forged Documents

>>>From: James Horak <jchorak7441.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:19:45 -0700 (PDT)
>>>Subject: Re: Forged Documents

<snip>

>>So now we have two possibilities. Lazar could be telling the
>>truth, and the government could have falsified the records. Or
>>Lazar could be lying, and the records are correct. How should we
>>decide which of these possibilities really happened? Which one
>>is true? What procedure, what kind of investigation would you
>>recommend? What kind of evidence would satisfy you - and the
>>rest of us - that one or the other possibility, finally, is the
>>correct one? You're quick to denounce anyone who accepts
>>possibility two, on the grounds that they haven't considered
>>possibility one. But that doesn't prove that possibility one is
>>really the truth. How can we actually determine that it is?

>Here is another possibility:

>Bob Lazar may have told his story, more or less, as he
>remembered it, but his memory may have been altered, to feed him
>a dose of disinformation.

>Actually, he admitted that he may have been manipulated. In
>other words, he may have been a "useful idiot", as  Jacques
>Vallee would say.

>But, if this is the case, it does not mean that all what he saw
>and 'learned' was necessarily false. We find the same intricacy
>regarding the MJ-12 documents - completely false, or half false,
>and then half true?

>The real world is not just black and white. It has many shades


Please can we stop lumping all the MJ-12 documents together?

One roll of film sent from NM to CA had the EBD and TF memos.

The Cutler Twining memo was found at the National Archives.

The SOM 1.01 was on film sent to Don Berliner from Wisconsin.

There are a huge load of documents disbursed by Tim Cooper.

I think I have clearly established that many if not all of the
latter are fraudulent and the other ones are genuine. If _you_
don't agree, then please put some facts on the table... Specific
reasons for denying the case I make in TOP SECRET/MAJIC and in 2
articles on my website.

If you have some new data on Bob Lazar, let us see
it... You know, trivia like diplomas, resumes, etc.


Stan Friedman



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