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Re: File Shows US Tried to Shoot Down UFO

From: Franklin D. Fields <fields.nul>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:45:25 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:40:12 -0400
Subject: Re: File Shows US Tried to Shoot Down UFO

>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:19:16 +0200 (CEST)
>Subject: File Shows US Tried to Shoot Down UFO

>>From: Franklin D. Fields <fields.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:12:41 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: File Shows US Tried to Shoot Down UFO


>>LONDON - An American fighter pilot flying from an English air
>>base at the height of the Cold War was ordered to open fire on a
>>massive UFO that lit up his radar, according to an account
>>published by Britain's National Archives on Monday.


>A couple of observations on all this.

>Firstly, the account in the MoD file is not an official USAF
>witness statement. It's a narrative apparently written by Torres
>years after the event and forwarded to the MoD by a ufologist.

>Secondly, various ufologists have suggested the incident was
>triggered by a radar spoofing test. Given the possibility that
>live weapons would be fired, any such tests would almost
>certainly have be conducted in the restricted airspace of one of
>the various ranges over the sea.

Mr. Pope,

Thank you for the comments. To clarify my position, I am not
stating that CIA phantom radar technology is not a valid theory,
only that it is not "the" theory. As Don Ledger pointed out, the
Soviets are another possibility. Of course as pointed out in
other posts there are reasons to discount both theories. Mr.
Torres, the pilot, does not think they are possible. He believes
a non earthly explanation is likely.

I personally think that it is not possible to draw a conclusion
from the available data. Which brings be back to my original
point. UFO researchers, UFO activists, or "UFO experts" should
not be drawing conclusions from data and then make statements to
the press like Mr. Clarke has done. It hurts an honest inquiry.

Mr. Torres is now 77 and recently made further witness
statements to reporters. He said that the day after he was
scrambled from the RAF base he received a visit from an American
National Security Agency officer. He was warned that if he ever
revealed what had happened, he would never fly
again. See article at:


Torres has not indicated that he was flying in restricted
airspace or at one of the various ranges. In fact some of his
statements indicate that was not the case. Also, many other
articles use Mr. Clarke’s testimony to counter Mr. Torres own
beliefs. To quote one from the article above, "but David Clarke,
a UFO expert and lecturer in journalism at Sheffield Hallam
University, has offered an alternative explanation" [counters
the actual eye witness statement]

There are 100s of articles on the topic on the internet. A quick
search on Google News for "ufo missile fire" will bring many up,
for those interested.



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