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Re: Ex-RAF Man Tells Of UFOs Encounter

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:06:12 -0300
Archived: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:18:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Ex-RAF Man Tells Of UFOs Encounter


>From: Gerald O'Connell <gac.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:37:42 +0000
>Subject: Re: Ex-RAF Man Tells Of UFOs Encounter

>>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:13:37 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Ex-RAF Man Tells Of UFOs Encounter

>>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:43:04 -0300
>>>Subject: Re: Ex-RAF Man Tells Of UFOs Encounter

>>>>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:23:47 -0000
>>>>Subject: Re: Ex-RAF Man Tells Of UFOs Encounter

>This thread is really pissing me off now, Martin.

>The data you supply, in relation to Britain's subsequent
>aeronautical manufacturing decline, has a familiar resonance and
>brings back bad memories.

>In 1992 I had just left British Aerospace Space Systems and I
>was in Moscow. I had the good fortune to meet Gary Himson from
>the Russian space programme. Gary was on his way to the USA to
>act as consultant to NASA on Shuttle heat insulation (remember
>the early days when the heat-resistant tiles used to come off
>the bird? Gary had already solved that one for the Russians, and
>he went over and solved it for NASA).

>We got to talking about communications satellites and he was
>incredulous that BAe was getting out of the game - this on the
>basis that the Russians regarded our Olympus experimental comsat
>as streets ahead of anything in orbit. He was right, of course.

>Seems like any major British technical achievement in these
>fields presages abandonment or exit.


Join the club, Gerald. The Avro [Canada] Arrow blew the doors
off anything flying back in 1958. But the Diefenbaker government
scrapped the Arrow and proudly marched back into the 1940s with
banners waving. They destroyed the 5 operational Arrows that
were being tested. Dumb bastards.

It's climb from sea-level to 50,000 feet was 58 seconds and that
was with the J-75-P-3s Pratt & Whitney engines rather than the
Iroquois engines [another 10,000lbs thrust].

It was at Mach 2 disclosed and designed to reach Mach 3 or
better. It was the first fly-by-wire aircraft.

At one of our flying club meetings we were fortunate to have the
production manager for Avro Canada and he told us about
performance figures that had never been released. But the
Canadian government has a habit of shooting itself in the foot
when it comes to technological advances.


Don Ledger



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