From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:11:51 -0400
Archived: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:20:33 -0500
Subject: Re: News Links - 28-10-09


>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:48:42 -0000
>Subject: Re: News Links - 28-10-09

>>Flint UFO Sighting Was Likely Plane In Low Clouds, FAA Says

>>The Flint Journal - MLive.com

>>http://tinyurl.com/ygupq5t

>Interesting coincidence, in view of Bruce's recent post about
>the four-light photos. A cluster of four lights seen from a car:

>"As I continued to watch I noticed that it was four opaque
>lights that were tear-dropped shape, but they had darker white
>circles in the center of them. The lights would come together in
>a center and immediately bounce back out. Once they hit about 50
>ft out in each direction they would come back and repeat the
>process. The lights as a whole were also rotating at a
>relatively slow pace. After about five more minutes I realized
>that there was no way this was from a light because it had been
>moving parallel to my car ( about 100 - 200 ft. up)for about 10
>minutes. The object made no noise, and seemed much too large to
>be any form of aircraft. [It was about 100 ft x 100 ft.] . . .
>After another 5 minutes or so it started making it's way further
>left over the woods, and I lost sight of it. It was definitely
>the most amazing thing I've ever seen."

>But in this case the resemblance to a laser display on a cloud
>base is suspicious (despite the long duration - maybe the road
>curved around the location, keeping the lights at the same
>relative bearing?). FAA is quoted as saying there was "cloud
>cover".

>But they also say it was under an airport approach path. I can't
>imagine that a laser show would be licensed under an approach
>path, although I don't know the local regulations on that sort
>of thing. And if illegal, could it go completely unnoticed by
>pilots and airport authorities?

>This old one was solved quite quickly at the time. It's an ice-
>crystal halo phenomenon called "light pillars" caused by the
>ground lights on (and just beyond) the near horizon, nice and
>bright because of the image intensifier. (BTW the soldier
>concerned accepted the explanation and tested it by videoing
>exactly same thing in similar conditions on another day).

More lights in the sky. I have had a few of these light column
reports over the years. One of the most interesting was from an
engineer who was in a car with three other engineers on their
way to a nuclear power plant under construction at 4am. He
reported an unseen stationary object a couple hundred feet from
the ground with 4 pillers of light shining down on a field,
illuminating the area below it. They watched it, the lights went
out and the source disappeared. This was in the 1970s.

In any event the witness-in this case- was wasting his/her time.
the FAA came back with a ludicrous explanation which they knew
full well would not satisfy the parameters of the sighting -
UFO/IFO or not. Since when does ATC disregard an 'airplane' in
it's quadrant in cloud at two hundred feet [note the witness did
not reports clouds] when minimums usually require a greater
height than that at just before the threshhold of the runway.
The FAA spokesman just threw in this comment;“In that area, at
night, with the cloud cover, it could be someone seeing the
lights of a plane, but not the plane,” Molinaro said.

I'd be more inclined to believe this was a light source from the
ground shining on the bases of the, as yet, undetermined clouds.

The usual aviation BS applies in this case as it does so many
others when it comes from the 'authority'.

BTW - the comments below the news-story on this sighting begger
belief. Talk about stupid and innane remarks. These must be the
opposite of the fringe UFO crowd only in this case 'fringe'
skeptics/sceptics.


Don Ledger



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