From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:10:50 -0800 Archived: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:20:00 -0400 Subject: Victims Of Bill Knell - Latest Dear Listers, [My apologies for such a lengthy post, however, I deem it necessary - please read] I am pleased to announce that with the efforts of 'The Few', the rights of the many have been successfully defended at least IN PART, but the work is far from over! Bill Knell's web-site www.the ufoguy.org has been suspended by its host Bravenet. It's important to point out, that this is the _third_ site that has been shut down in under two years; Knell sees this as "the cost of doing business!" He has been doing this for decades, and simply having his site closed does not stifle him overall. He does have other 'scam-sites', not related to Ufology, and his Amazon site is still up. In short, as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow, Knell will continue his nefarious ways, that is until he is arrested and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Henceforth, this is why any potential victims "follow through with their respective complaints." The names of the potential victims, as listed below were culled in haste, and taken from DVDs that Knell had offered for sale on his web-site; separately, through the efforts of myself and complainant Scott Ramsey et al, we've confirmed over 30 victims! These people were contacted directly and in most cases, verified that Knell was not authorized in any form or fashion to sell their copyrighted work! Because many of the examples of copyright infringement were lectures from various symposia, "authorized" distributors were contacted, as well as symposium promoters who often times retain the right to market the various lectures of their speakers etc.; it was no surprise to find out that these folks were not only cognizant of Knell's criminal activities, but that they had taken actions against him in various degrees in the past. They, as well as the original copyright owners "never" authorized Knell to sell and or reproduce the respective works. Out of every suspected victim contacted, ALL were being ripped off!! There was no "hit and miss"--it was 100%! In that vein, I believe that out of the names listed below, the majority (if not all) where copyright is still in force are having their legal rights violated. (Remember too, that there are many more names not listed). Most potential victims are not aware of the crimes against them; the purpose of the original notice was/is to inform folks that their rights were being violated and they can help put an end to it; that they are not alone and collectively they can put Knell out of business once and for all. Although the thesis of my missives have been focused on the copyright holders, it's essential to underscore the _other_victims_ who far out number the authors of said works, i.e., the buyers of bogus, poorly pirated, illegal DVDs! Given the longevity of Knell's criminal enterprises, as well as the large number of pirated works, IMHO it's safe to say that they number is in the thousands (if not more). One retail victim who came to light, had purchased over 100 of Knell's counterfeit DVDs; disgruntled about the poor quality he attempted to get a refund and or replacements from Knell, assuming Knell was not only an authorized distributor but the famed Ufologist he makes himself out to be on his various web- sites. When that failed, he contacted the copyright holder, who of course was infuriated to find out that her work was being ripped off and counterfeited. I highlight this point, because the consumer feels that he or she has being equally slighted by the author/copyright holder, since Knell leads the victims to believe he is an "authorized distributor" of said goods; in fact he (Knell) had that exact statement posted on his web-site! Accordingly, not only are copyright holders being ripped off financially, their reputations suffer, because "the unknowing consumer" thinks that they (the author, writer, speaker, film producer et al) are in business with Knell. A few copyright holders/victims who have been made aware of the crimes against them and or their fans, have oddly chosen to remain dormant; for whatever reason they prefer not to take the 15 minutes to file a complaint against this criminal, thus enabling Knell to continue to rip them (and others) off as well as sully their respective reputations. Quite frankly, that's how Knell has been able to persist for decades - victims choosing not to protect themselves and their rights. Again, I implore any potential victim to file a complaint with the IC3; all the pertinent information is in the previous posts under this thread. You can also contact me off list for any info. The following are sample complaints to either the IC3, Bravenet and or Knell (although contacting Knell is fruitless and not recommended), by complainants Dennis Balthaser and Scott Ramsey: --- William & Catherine & Jamie Knell, I have recently discovered that you are "illegally selling" one of my lecture DVD's on your site, www.ufoguy.org/dvds.html "Dennis Balthazar" (spelling of my name is wrong), Title of DVD: "The Roswell Incident: Then and Now" Additionally you are advertising my lecture and other researchers presentations under a false title of: "Aliens Among Us: Stunning Secrets About UFOs and Extraterrestrials" I have all of my lectures copyrighted with the Library of Congress in Washington,DC, and you have never requested or purchased any of my DVDs for personal use, or as is the case here, to sell on your site. In simple terms that is piracy and a serious violation of copyright infringement violations, (a federal felony offense), which I will not stand idly by for. You have been doing this with some 80 other researchers and presenters, and with this email I am informing you that legal action will be undertaken by myself and others to put an immediate end to your piracy tactics. I do not want some lame excuse for you having my DVD for sale on your site, instead want immediate compensationn from you, along with a written statement that you have illegally put my DVD for sale on your site, and will discontinue such operations. In the past you have been known to apologize to the presenter, and later put the DVD back on your site for sale again. That will not be tolerated by me. I will be filing a written complaint with IC3 (Internet Crime Complaint Center), an FBI-NW3C Partnership. A copy of this email is also copied to Bravenet Web Services, your website host. Dennis Balthaser --- Dear Graham White, [Bravenet] Several months ago, I contacted you as well as others that are being victimized by a Bill Knell ( www.ufoguy.org ) who is pirating our DVD's on his web site. Your company, Bravenet is hosting his web site. I contacted your "legal team" as advised by you, and now 6 months later we have heard nothing back. Mr. Bill Knell is continuing his illegal activities using your company as the "host". We have since filed a complaint with the F.B.I. (IC-3 Division)in both North Carolina as well as Indianapolis, Indiana. We have also filed a criminal compliant with Rowan County Sheriff Department here in North Carolina. We have also filed a criminal complaint with Detective Maurice Hobson with the Lebanon Police Department in Lebanon, Indiana where Mr. Bill Knell lives and carries out his LONG criminal activities. We, Aztec 1948 Inc., a Alabama Corporation intend to press charges on Mr. Knell and we will hold Bravenet responsible as well, for collecting damages to our company. Bravenet was notified of this criminal activity by several people that are being victimized by Mr. Knell, who has a long history of stealing peoples work and claiming he is Producer and Director of said DVD's, and again, as stated, you have done nothing. In the past several months, we have captured his web site and recorded all the pirated DVD's that he is selling. He is stealing from over 30 people as this is written. (all are being contacted to file criminal complaints with Detective Hobson as well as the F.B.I. office in Indianapolis, Indiana). We have given out your contact information as well. This case is now in the hands of Detective Maurice Hobson, Lebanon Police Department, as well as Jxxx Xxxxxx, Special Agent in Charge IC-3 Division with the Indianapolis F.B.I. Office. This email is to inform you, Graham White, and Bravenet that we will be contacting our legal team in Canada to pursue legal action against you. If you wish to contact me, my number is XXX-XXX-XXXX Scott D. Ramsey Aztec 1948 Inc. --- Potential Victims of Bill Knell 1. Al Bielek 2. Angelia Joiner 3. Bill Cooper (Estate of) 4. Bill English 5. Bill Moore 6. Bill Stanley 7. Bob Lazar 8. Brad & Sherry Steiger 9. Bruce Maccabee 10. Budd Hopkins 11. Cathy Ross 12. Chuck Zukowski 13. Clifford Stone 14. Daniel Sheehan 15. David Hatcher Childress 16. David Jacobs 17. Debbie Ziegelmeyer 18. Dennis Balthaser 19. Dick Criswell 20. Don Ledger 21. Donald Keyhoe (Estate of) 22. Donald Schmitt 23. Dr Paul LaViolette 24. Dr Steven Greer 25. Dr. Edgar Mitchell 26. Dr. Joseph P. Farrell 27. Ed and Lorraine Warren 28. Edgar Cayce Foundation 29. Edward R. Murrow(Estate of) 30. Erich Von Daniken 31. Frank Edwards (Estate of) 32. George Fawcett 33. George Knapp 34. Gildas Bourdais 35. Grant Cameron 36. 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