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Re: Brazilian AF Regulates UFO Reports - Pt III

From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:07:45 -0300
Archived: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:40:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Brazilian AF Regulates UFO Reports - Pt III


>From: Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos <ballesterolmos.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:43:49 +0000 (GMT)
>Subject: Re: Brazilian AF Regulates UFO Reports - Pt III

>>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <ajgevaerd.nul>
>>De: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Fecha: jueves, 12 de agosto, 2010 19:18
>>Asunto: UFO UpDate: Brazilian AF Regulates UFO Reports - Pt III

>>I regret to say to the world UFO community, however, that
>>we are now almost certain that almost all of those footages, that
>>are  *extremelly more* significant than pointed out by Mori,
>>according to several top military sources I spoke to and
>>who saw  the films, along with a few civilians, have been
>>permanently  destroyed due to improper handling and storage.

>>But to me it is  not reason at all to give up the fight. The
>>films are in bad  shape. Fine, give them to us anyway they are!

>Dear friend Ademar, and List:

>For years I have read about the outstanding Project Saucer photo
>and film evidence, and as manager of FOTOCAT Project I have been
>eagerly awaiting when it could be fully consulted for analysis.
>Now I am dismayed to find out that most of this evidence seems
>to have been destroyed by "improper storage".

>Frankly, how material evidence of something extraordinary could
>have been mismanaged so dramatically? Didn=B4t the official owners
>know the significance of this? Why it was not submitted to the
>higher posts in the Air Force for proper filing, custody and
>study? Why the emeritus generals which you have interviewed
>lately do not account for this lack of responsability?  There is
>a real information gap between the Operation Saucer activities
>as told today and the final handling of their records: can you
>let us know about this and why it could happen? Noone is
>accountable for this miserable failure?


Hi V-J,

How are you my friend?

I am sorry to see your disappointment with the fact that the 16
hours of super-8 and super-16 mm films produced by Operation
Saucer may be permanently damaged.

I can understand your frustration, as I am also extremely
frustrated, as anybody else at the Brazilian Committee of UFO
Researchers (CBU). Actually, I am the person who found out about
this material, who have been given the information about the
films and how they were obtained directly from captain (later
coronel) Uyrange Hollanda, Operation Saucer commander.

Believe me I have done all I could to locate where the footage
may be, to have it finally released as part of the campaign UFOs:
Freedom of Information Now. And I have even engaged a few people
in very specific places of our Federal Adminstration and Air
Force, people in position to know where the footage could
possibly be, that have promised me to do their best to also
locate them.

Until a few weeks ago we were working with two serious
possibilities: (a) that the 16 hours of super-8 and super-16 mm
films produced by Operation Saucer could either totally or
partially been lost, and (b) that they, also totally or
partially, could be in the hands of civilians, perhaps given to
them by retired Air Force officers. Or both. Of course, the 3rd
option was that they are still in possession of the Air Force,
that still refuses ro release them. Could be a combination of it
all.

See, the second option is not impossible. In the early 2000, a
retired Air Force officer gave over 1,100 *original* pages of
very important UFO documents from the Unidentified Aerial
Objects Invesigation System (SIOANI), one of or first official
UFO research entities, established in 1969, to a civilian UFO
researcher, Edilson Boaventura Junior. Despite the fact that the
documents -- again, very important -- were given to Boaventura
with the especific determination that they should be handled to
all Brazilian UFO Community, they where kept in his private
files till a few months ago, for almost a decade. A wrote a
serious piece about it to the Brazilian UFO Magazine.

It was only last year that Boaventura, after a serious talk with
the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU) members, in
Curitiba, was forced to realize that he should at once do what
he was supposed to many years ago, and it was give all that
material to the entire Brazilian UFO Community, and then he
actually did so to the Brazilian UFO Magazine, who handles
things of CBU, with copies to the National Archives, and in both
cases the docs are now available to everyone.

Now, after the ending of the dictatorship period in Brazil, a
few years after Operation Saucer was shut down (but it wasn't
really), the films may have been taken, partially or entirelly,
by one of the Air Force members who had access to them and then
could have been kept privately somewhere. Then lost forever.

According a central character in the military who have supported
our campaign, that is a serious possibility, as well as that
other info, that partially or entirelly, what was keep the
official records was damaged due to improper handling and storage
after all these years

I am sorry, that is the fact I know. And I also feel frustrated
by that.

Keep up the great work at FotoCat,


A. J.




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