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Re: Shostak's Search Shift?

From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 12:50:40 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 13:20:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Shostak's Search Shift?

>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 14:08:01 +0100
>Subject: Re: Shostak's Search Shift?


>'eric70 - 9/27/2010 10:35:30 PM - wrote:

>I was invited to participate in a navy project that studied
>unidentified aerial phenomenon. I was never asked to sign a non
>disclosure document, so I feel justified in sharing what I know.

>Some of the objects in and near earth's atmosphere are highly
>advanced mechanical objects with computer like brains that have
>enormous processing power. There are no 'aliens' inside them.
>The craft themselves are what is 'alive'.

>The hypothesis is that since they are found near earth, there
>are likely trillions of these objects throughout the universe
>and the assumption is that they self replicate.

>They are not 'visiting' the earth in any sense. They are simply
>near the earth, just as they are likely near every planet in the
>universe given the vast number of them in the universe. The
>population is billions of years old.

>The reason for secrecy is that we really don't know if they are
>a threat. They don't appear to be a physical threat in that they
>seem to ignore, and selectively avoid collision with, civilian
>aircraft when they are encountered by pilots. They appear to be
>networked together in a loose fashion, and they could
>conceivably be a threat on a psychological level.

>Their intent could be to influence human thinking, or even
>inject a virtual reality into anyone who comes into contact with
>one of them. People who have close encounters with UFOs often
>report experiencing things, even though there is no physical
>evidence those things happened.

>The other reason for secrecy is that people may not be able to
>cope with the knowledge that there are silicon based
>'civilizations' throughout the universe that are advanced beyond
>our imagination. This fact touches the root of religion and
>human ego.


>Dave Haith

That would be the same "Eric" whose similar comment I posted to
UFO UpDates a couple of weeks ago. Search for thread,
"Interesting Comment on 'Mirage Men' Article". I believe he
signed that comment as, "Eric from MI".

Of course this isn't anything new. Ray Kurzweil has been putting
forth his views of a future in which man will merge with
technology during a period of time referred to as "the
technological singularity". Kurzweil believes this to occur when
machine intelligence reaches levels far beyond human

According to Kurzweil, human version 2.0 will occur with the
creation of advanced cyborgs. We are currently in the primitive
beginning stage of this process. Human version 3.0 will occur
when humans abandon their physical bodies altogether and upload
their minds into machines.

Of course Kurzweil doesn't believe there will be any problems
with developing these advanced A.I. because we will merge with
them. However, other experts still believe that such machines
may pose a threat and could view us as being unnecessary and may
decide to wipe us out.

What makes Kurzweil's beliefs relevant to this topic is that
according to Kurzweil, we as posthumans, the theoretical stage
of human evolution in which humans are no longer human by
today's standards, will spread out across the universe,
replicating and assimilating. Other experts have suggested that
it is our children, the advanced A.I. that will abandon us and
spread out into the universe, possibly after they have used up
all of earth's resources or after the earth being destroyed by
the war between humans and machines.

So assuming Eric's comment is true, which I don't actually
believe, It would seems as if people in that reported UFO study
were familiar with the work of Ray Kurzweil and other experts
and authors. The scenario is the same. The only difference is
that Kurzweil is not a believer in the UFO phenomenon.

Again, for the sake of argument, assuming Eric's comments are
true, I would like to see a wee bit more 'intelligent
speculation', a coin I termed some years back.

Some of these intelligent machines or crafts may indeed have
occupants. Such might be the creation of the machines
themselves. For example, abductees report the harvesting of
sperm and eggs and the creation of "hybrids". The only
difference is that this is done by "grays". Well, what if the
grays were the first generation of beings created by such
advanced machine intelligences? Reference the recent re-imagined
Battlestar Galactica series where the cylons have evolved into
humanoid models.

I can't help but laugh at such scenarios because it's like the
ultimate Turing test, but carried out by the machines
themselves! If advanced A.I. can create beings that we humans
mistake for an organic species or even mistake for being human,
then these machines would be proving their own intelligence.
However, it may simply be that the answer is far more sinister.
The creation of these beings may imply that we are in the
process of being assimilated.

-Jason Gammon

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