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Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 14:01:12 -0300
Archived: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:17:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:16:24 +0000
>Subject: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico


>I was out on my patio each night between 10:30 p.m. and 12:30
>a.m.. Watching the skies. I had a clear view under the cloud
>cover all the way to Rio Rico about 20 miles as the crow flies.
>This is the desert, which means one can see for miles over the
>tops of low brush.
>Friday night, around 11:05 p.m., a very noisy aircraft with four
>red running lights flew over using Highway 19 as a flight path -
>north to south direction. The only usual thing I noticed was
>that the running lights were not rotating - i.e., flashing.
>There was one red light on each wing, a red light on the tail
>and a red light on the nose. They were flying under the cloud
>cover. Later that night it rained.

Well, Greer is certainly no help to the study of this
phenomenon, but more of a major embarrassement.

These red lights, as you have described, are non-standard (ICAO)
navigation lights. Even if military, they have to display the
proper lighting configuration while in civilian airspace.

ICAO standard light is, red-left, green-right, white to the
rear. Each light must display 120 degrees (covering the full
360). They don't have to strobe or flash - that is done to
heighten the aircraft's visibiliy.

Red lights on the bottom must strobe and are required for night
flying or Instrument Flight Rules. This configuration allows the
pilot in a closing aircraft to determine his or her orientation
to the aircraft approached. It is obvious then why standard
lighting must prevail.

The only thing I can think of that close to the border is one of
the 2 UAVs the Arizona State government purchased for border
control. But displaying four red lights is still illegal and

Rio Rico is about 9 miles North of the border so I suspect you
are located anywhere around that perimeter that allows you to be
20-miles from the city without being in Mexico. You didn't say
what direction Rio Rico was from your position.

Rio Rico is sandwiched between the Fuzzy MOA ~ 9 miles to the
West and R-2303B ~12 miles to the East. 39 miles due East of Rio
Rico in R-2312 (a 4 mile restricted circle a few miles South of
Serria Vista) there is a warning for an unmarked (no lights)
tethered observation balloon at 15,000 feet MSL; no doubt for
border patrol purposes.

Don Ledger

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