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Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:44:32 +0000
Archived: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 07:27:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:17:56 -0400
>To: ufo-updates-list.nul
>From: post.nul
>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 14:01:12 -0300
>Subject: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:16:24 +0000
>>Subject: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico


>>I was out on my patio each night between 10:30 p.m. and 12:30
>>a.m.. Watching the skies. I had a clear view under the cloud
>>cover all the way to Rio Rico about 20 miles as the crow flies.
>>This is the desert, which means one can see for miles over the
>>tops of low brush.

>>Friday night, around 11:05 p.m., a very noisy aircraft with four
>>red running lights flew over using Highway 19 as a flight path -
>>north to south direction. The only usual thing I noticed was
>>that the running lights were not rotating - i.e., flashing.
>>There was one red light on each wing, a red light on the tail
>>and a red light on the nose. They were flying under the cloud
>>cover. Later that night it rained.

>Well, Greer is certainly no help to the study of this
>phenomenon, but more of a major embarrassement.

>These red lights, as you have described, are non-standard (ICAO)
>navigation lights. Even if military, they have to display the
>proper lighting configuration while in civilian airspace.

KK's response: This aircraft did not. I believe I pointed
out that this was not the usual pattern.
>ICAO standard light is, red-left, green-right, white to the
>rear. Each light must display 120 degrees (covering the full
>360). They don't have to strobe or flash - that is done to
>heighten the aircraft's visibiliy.

KK's response: Yeah, it is the reason I pointed out the
lights were all red and not rotating.
>Red lights on the bottom must strobe and are required for night
>flying or Instrument Flight Rules. This configuration allows the
>pilot in a closing aircraft to determine his or her orientation
>to the aircraft approached. It is obvious then why standard
>lighting must prevail.
>The only thing I can think of that close to the border is one of
>the 2 UAVs the Arizona State government purchased for border
>control. But displaying four red lights is still illegal and

Don, this is the desert Southwest. The wild west where it is
legal to carry a gun in holster into a bar or restaurant.
Possibly I was watching a drug cartel plane flying up to Tucson.

What about Davis-Monthan AFB and the type of craft they may be
flying - testing for Raytheon. I believe I stated that the
aircraft was very noisy, as opposed to the almost silent flight
of UAVs. So, no, it was not one of the two UAVs owned by the
State of Arizona. However, it might be one of the Feds support

>Rio Rico is about 9 miles North of the border so I suspect you
>are located anywhere around that perimeter that allows you to be
>20-miles from the city without being in Mexico. You didn't say
>what direction Rio Rico was from your position.

I am 29 minutes north of Rio Rico which is a few miles south of

>Rio Rico is sandwiched between the Fuzzy MOA ~ 9 miles to the
>West and R-2303B ~12 miles to the East. 39 miles due East of Rio
>Rico in R-2312 (a 4 mile restricted circle a few miles South of
>Serria Vista) there is a warning for an unmarked (no lights)
>tethered observation balloon at 15,000 feet MSL; no doubt for
>border patrol purposes.

I think you are referring to mobile phone use. If so, I have to
wonder what you are getting at. That it would be okay to have
all red lights, not the usual red and green flashing. Or, did C-
Seti get their wish and witness a ufo flying in the skies over
southern Arizona?

BTW: last night, if a viewing session took place off the Sunset
Patio at Esplendor, the participants would have had a
spectacular view of the storm that rolled in from south of the
border. It might have been fun to put on a couple of sweaters,
take a large mug of hot chocolate and sit on the patio.

Just the usual commercial jet at 30,000 feet on its flight from
Mexico City to Chicago around 10:40 PM. It appeared just head of
the storm clouds which tailed behind the plane.


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