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Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 01:40:10 +0000
Archived: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:44:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 16:40:48 -0300
>Subject: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:44:32 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Greer's C-Seti In Rio Rico


>Drug airplanes don't display lights. As for it being Arizona,
>that state doesn't determine what lights have to be displayed by
>aircraft. It's Federal Aviation Agency's responsibility. Arizona
>has no say in it.

Why would the drug cartels pay any attention to Arizona or the
FAA? This is the desert. There is nobody out here who would care
how many light, whether they are rotating, flashing or turned
completely off. You are trying to impose laws on the lawless.

>>What about Davis-Monthan AFB and the type of craft they may be
>>flying - testing for Raytheon. I believe I stated that the
>>aircraft was very noisy, as opposed to the almost silent flight
>>of UAVs. So, no, it was not one of the two UAVs owned by the
>>State of Arizona. However, it might be one of the Feds support

>They still display the usual lights. In fact if it is secret
>testin it would behoove them to display standard nav lights to
>ward of suspicion. Fed support craft as well display
>conventional lighting.

No, the testers would do whatever they wanted. You must be from
Canada where people don't think about breaking the law. I live
in a part of Arizona where people think nothing of going their
own way. Sometimes, carrying a gun.

>>>Rio Rico is about 9 miles North of the border so I suspect you
>>>are located anywhere around that perimeter that allows you to be
>>>20-miles from the city without being in Mexico. You didn't say
>>>what direction Rio Rico was from your position.

>>I am 29 minutes north of Rio Rico which is a few miles south of

>>>Rio Rico is sandwiched between the Fuzzy MOA ~ 9 miles to the
>>>West and R-2303B ~12 miles to the East. 39 miles due East of Rio
>>>Rico in R-2312 (a 4 mile restricted circle a few miles South of
>>>Serria Vista) there is a warning for an unmarked (no lights)
>>>tethered observation balloon at 15,000 feet MSL; no doubt for
>>>border patrol purposes.

>>I think you are referring to mobile phone use.

>No, I'm referring to a lookdown system platform along the
>US/Mexico border. It's in a Restricted Zone (R-2312) within
>Restricted zone R-2303B.

>>If so, I have to
>>wonder what you are getting at. That it would be okay to have
>>all red lights, not the usual red and green flashing. Or, did C-
>>Seti get their wish and witness a ufo flying in the skies over
>>southern Arizona?

>I laid that out above re ICAO standards for nav lights. No I am
>not saying it is okay to display all red lights in civilian
>airspace - it is illegal - and not even SOP for restricted
>military airspace either. The AF uses recognition lights,
>clusters of LEDs in muted green and blue/purple pastel shades
>that they use to formate on each other during night missions-
>particularly military helicopters.

Thanks for explaining what is legal, but there are pilots who do
not care what is legal.

I see many different types of air craft in the skies at night
and sometimes during the day. At no time have a seen muted
green, blue, purple or pastel shades. Just your basic white,
bright green and bright red.

>These LEDs should not excite anyone however because they have
>very low visibility ( for obvious reasons) and displayed on the
>aircraft so as not to be visible from the ground unless they
>were 50 feet off the deck in the first place where your lawn sod
>being peeled back by jet exhaust would probably tip you off
>anyway as to what you were seeing. The lights are displayed as 2
>foot long by 4 inch wide bands at various angles and in
>different combinations to identify particular aircraft in a

Thanks for the heads up concerning a system of lights
I have not seen.

Just to add to my list: the usual helicopter running lights.
Of course, accompanied by a loud whirling sound.

>They are meant to be lined up with certain marks or structure of
>the canopy (or helicopter cabin windows) so as to formate on
>each other while flying at night or in marginal weather.

Therefore, all of the above means that there were people who
could afford to drop $1000 never saw an ET. Just what I thought.
Maybe, next time.


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