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Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:22:07 -0400
Subject: Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA

>From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:02:34 -0400
>Subject: Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA

>I think the conversion to tinyurl wiped out my original link in
>that post. It now goes to a different YouTube video than the one
>I intended, I think because it linked to the YouTube channel
>and not the specific video. This should be the correct link:


>Following up,

>I've emailed a Mr. John Ventre, who is listed as the MUFON
>director in Pennsylvania, about reports that he had gone to her
>house and conducted an investigation. He replied that while
>MUFON has a policy of not releasing official reports and
>conclusions to the public, he did go to visit her home and spent
>two hours there. He stated that he, "spent 2 hrs with her and
>only saw planes...."

My guess: airplane with headlights traveling toward her at
nearly constant altitude, that passes her and continues onward
to he right, eventually reaching such a low angular elevation
that it is lost in the trees.

The initial direction of the hypothetical plane was just to its
left of traveling directly toward her, or, from her perspective,
it was traveling in a direction that would make it pass just to
her right.

It may have made a slight left turn just before it reached the
maximum angular elevation at the time it started to move rapidly
rightward on the video.

Airplane headlights, when viewed head on can be seen for miles,
maybe 20 miles or more. When viewed with night vision device
they can "bloom out" (overexpose) even when miles away.

At 180 mph or 3 miles per minute, if seen when 20 miles away
would take 6 minutes to get close - if going more slowly, would
take longer, if going more rapidly would take less -) which can
explain why the light was seen for so long.

I have seen head-on airplane lights and have been 'astounded' at
how long it can take for the plane to 'reveal' itself by
appearing to turn and move away.

Note that if a plane moves toward you at constant altitude its
initial angular elevation will be low - e.g. 2 miles up, 20
miles away is about 6 deg elevation and as it approaches the
angular elevation will increase, i.e., at 2 miles up and 2 miles
distance the angle is 45 deg.

Initially the increase in angular elevation will be very slow,
but as the poane approaches the angular elevation will increase
more and more rapidly until it reaches its maximum angular

In this video the light initially very slowly creeps upward, but
then the angular elevation increases rapidly to a maximum value
about the time the flashing begins. Then it moves across her
field of view and the angular elevation drops again as it moves

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