From: Jim Deardorff <deardorj.nul> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Archived: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:14:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Manhattan UFOs >From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:29:12 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Manhattan UFOs >>From: Joe Merrell <joe.nul> >>To: <post.nul> >>Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:05:38 -0700 >>Subject: Manhattan UFOs >>These objects were spotted over Manhattan yesterday (10/13/10): >>http://tinyurl.com/32bmybn >>http://www.huliq.com/10164/floating-orb-manhattan-sets-ufo-debate >>Many reports refer to a single object (mainstream press >>reports), though multiple objects seem to have been present - as >>can be seen clearly in the linked videos. >UFO? NYC kids say no, mysterious floating orbs were escaped >balloons from teacher's engagement party >http://tinyurl.com/3yqtjqy Surely there are a few ufologists in the NYC area, perhaps MUFON investigators? I wonder how long one must wait to hear what they find while investigating the various balloon hypotheses. Surely they've noticed apparent discrepancies such as: 1. The sightings in Manhattan were reported to be going on as early as 9:30 in the morning. The inadvertent balloon release at the grade school was said to have occurred around 1 pm. So unless the morning sightings were all hallucinations, the 1 pm balloon release hypothesis can't exlain it. 2. One witness saw some 50 dots moving around in the sky, in the morning. Another reported "hundreds" of them. But only 12 were inadvertently released, and those in a single cluster, apparently tied together, since the school mom had brought four clusters of a dozen each in her car or van - one cluster escaped, as a cluster. So the numbers also don't fit the balloon hypothesis. 12 versus 50 or more. 3. Most of the videos I viewed showed between 3 and 8 white individual dots or orbs. But if it was a tied cluster that escaped, they would not be expected to come untied while drifting upwards and along with the breezes. One video did show a tight cluster of orbs, but less than twelve. So obviously the chronology of the various sightings and videos needs checking - the cluster should come before the individually moving orbs if there's a chance for the same balloons to have been involved in both. 4. Three video segments in the pasted-together video each showed three orbs; in two of the segments the orbs were separated from each other by a few or by many orb-diameters, while in the third segment they were very close to each other, practically touching. In what order were these footage segments taken? It would be extremely improbable for three definitely separated balloons drifting within the mildly turbulent daytime air to come together, rather than to continue dispersing. 5. The one segment of the three orbs very close together by itself would shoot down the balloon hypothesis, assuming balloons had been released from ground level individually either dozens of feet away or miles away from the witnesses. Dispersion would have occured as always, if they were balloons released within the Earth's turbulent boundary layer. So a ufologist should instead investigate if three balloons had been released in a tied cluster, with that cluster finally coming untied somehow just before the video footage commenced of the three together, and with the other two video segments taken slightly later after the three orbs had dispersed a bit. 6. Several witnesses reported that the orbs hovered over the same area in Manhattan for 2 =BD hours. But the wind was reported to be between 5-10 mph, which would have carried balloons some 20 miles. If so, this rules out all the one-time-release balloon hypotheses. 7. One report had it that there were balloon releases going on in Times Square (of yellow balloons), but a reported check on this found that nothing of relevance had been going on in Times Square. Was there anything to this report, and would the wind direction have been right? 8. Concerning the retired AF officer whose recent book predicted major UFO events over major cities on Oct. 13th, 2010: The balloon hypothesis has to invoke a rare coincidence, while the UFO/alien hypothesis can easily explain it if the history of UFO deception is recalled. Or was it a failed prediction, occurring only over NYC? Hopefully there are some NYC ufologists, perhaps newly generated ones, who are looking into these matters and who will report their findings. Or is the fear of balloon ridicule just too strong? If ufologists cannot deal with a major UFO event involving multiple witnesses and multiple pieces of video footage, what can they deal with? Jim Deardorff Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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