From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:20:31 +0000 Archived: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:47:54 -0400 Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux >From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:35:17 -0300 >Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux >>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul> >>To: <post.nul> >>Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:51:11 +0000 >>Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux >>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul> >>To: post.nul> >>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:09:10 EDT >>Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux <snips> >>BTW; I notice there hasn't been a rush to join this conversation >>which tells me there is little interest in this. I just thought >>another point of view should be expressed. >>Thanks Kevin for providing another opinion regarding the so- >>called MJ-12 documents. >>I would guess nobody joined in the discussion because most of us >>had thought the debate was over. Ending with the conclusion that >>the documents were fakes. Clever, very detailed, but fakes. That >>would include the 'newer' even more detailed MJ-12 fakes. >>I thought the "newer" version of all those many documents were >>truly very funny and done by someone with a sense of humor. >>Those documents were the "wet dream" of some ufo investigators. >>Everything one ever wanted to be true about ufos was "proved" to >>be true by those documents. >Kathy, >You are asking the wrong question. It is not are the MJ-12 >documents fakes. It is "are any genuine?". I have, of course, >long since noted that a mess were fakes and spelled out the >reasons.I say three(3) are genuine and spelled out in detail why >I reached that conclusion Check the long article on my website. >Are isotopes fissionable? Of course not. Everybody Knows that >99% are not. Fortunately, there are a couple that are. > >Would anybody be surprised if the government flooded the market >With junk after the original genuine ones were slipped out? They >were obviously successful in getting the garbage to rub off on >the good stuff. For shame for being so gullible. >Stan Friedman Okay, everybody, I didn't want to do this but pretending my response is because I am gullible? I don't think so. Sit back because this is going to take a while to share. 1} I know all of the MJ-12 documents are fakes because the committee that was advising President Truman was not called MJ- 12. MJ-12 was the name Bill Moore fished out of the ethers of archived and defunct covert government projects. 2} At one time in my life I had a couple of dinner meetings and private conversations with the two people involved in perpetrating the first "MJ-12" documents. They were very specific about how the "emergence" of the fake documents took place. 3} One of the individuals attempted to involve me in two different ufo/aliens-are-among us hoaxes. He ran into a wall with me because I researched the two items he was pretending were real. You could thank me for stopping yet another couple of hoaxes someone was getting ready to introduce to the ufo community. 4} During research for a book I wrote, I dug through government documents and discovered the name and personnel of the real working group. So, I had the real info when the next set of "MJ- 12" documents came along. 5} All sets of "MJ-12" documents do not ever mention the names of the real people, except the head of the working group, who participated in the real behind the scenes development of the real space program. It was an easy call for me and not based on gullibility. Frankly, Stan, based on my research, I have always thought you were the gullible one. 6} Because I knew how the first set of "MJ-12" documents were presented to the public, it was easy for me to follow the timeline trail back to the emergence of the second set of "MJ- 12." Therefore, I determined anything called "MJ-12" documents were fakes. They are not even very good fakes as truly convincing propaganda/disinfo should have real information embedded in it. One name of one of the real head's of the working group doesn't cut it with me. 7} Because I trust no one, and require background information from at least two sources, I am considered a bitch of a researcher and very difficult to deal with. Just ask Bill Moore. KK Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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