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Re: Can't Stop Seeing UFOs

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:00:17 -0000
Archived: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:48:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Can't Stop Seeing UFOs

>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:50:01 -0000
>Subject: Re: Can't Stop Seeing UFOs


>Certainly there appear to be similarities in the two phenomena -
>levitation (the 'craft' and sometimes 'occupants' appear to
>float), objects (stones and UFOs) appear out of nowhere and
>burst into our physical world, and then there's the element of
>'secrecy or tricksterism' - UFOs never quite give the ultimate
>evidence as if they're playing with us and poltergeists often
>seem to refuse to perform until someone shuts a door to a room
>and the sofa overturns.


Hi Dave, Michael and Diana,

About that 'tricksterism' - as mentioned, am reading Paul
Davies' somewhat pessimistic thoughts on all things SETI.

It turns out he's inclined to believe, quite firmly, that
intelligent organic life will inevitably be superseded by its
own AI creations - and that the 'organics' (like us) will be
doomed to either fade away or lead apparently pointless lives as
maintained 'dumb pets' of the AIs. That leads him to expect our
point of contact to be with an outpost of the AIs, either
finding a Matrioshka brain


or one of many possible smaller, self-repairing, nuclear or
cosmic-ray powered and asteroid-based 'deep-thinkers' in space -
perhaps acting as monitors or maybe just obsessed with solipsist
theorizing (Davies has a thing about mathematics; can't see why
- Godel's theorem says that mathematics is merely human, and
anyway deeply flawed).

That influences his thinking about the "new SETI" objectives and
methods - i.e. to primarily look for the 'footprint' of ET
rather than expect direct messages by radio. So he's thinking in
terms of finding Dyson spheres around stars which are being
harvested for energy etc, or tracing waves of
mining/colonization by analyzing star spectrums to find which
are having nuclear waste products dumped into them as its system
is exploited/exhausted.

Only halfway through so don't yet know if Davies has examined
the further problem of what is likely to be the motivations of
an independent AI (apart from self-repair/survival programs).

It could be that we'll face (or are facing now) a deeply
solipsist AI mind(s) (we'd maybe call it extremely 'autistic')
which thinks it's 'entertaining' or even 'educational' to fool
around with the perceptions of primitive organics like us?


Ray D

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