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Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul>
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 06:18:05 -0400
Archived: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 06:18:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:01:19 -0400
>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>>From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:19:29 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: Hudson Valley UFOs


>I'd like to alert those interested in Hudson Valley UFO
>sightings that we've been having a problem with what appear to
>be military craft that may produce some UFO reports. Astronomer
>Bob Berman (who lives in the area) described his sighting in his
>Woodstock Times column as "Man, it was weird. It was the closest
>thing to a UFO that I've ever seen."

>This summer the mountainous, heavily wooded central Catskills
>(western Ulster County in particular) has been plagued with
>loud, fast low-flying aircraft often around midnight.They've
>been reported to sometimes follow the hollows deeper into the
>mountains. I ran out of my house at the noise when one of them
>flew over, concerned that it was a plane about to crash (heard
>it, didn't see it). Another I saw at midnight appeared to be
>lower than the mountains beyond it, and seemed to be at least as
>large as a quarter held at arm's length.

>Efforts to find an agency would take responsibility for the
>flights has been frustrating so far. The larger planes have been
>identified as C-130s. They are sometimes seen in close pursuit
>of smaller planes, which Berman describes as "small, very fast,
>dark aircraft with no position (navigation) lights - just a
>single green trailing light. I think it was a pilotless drone."
>Resident Mary Kelly says the plane she saw had only one red
>light.The smaller planes are said to be the MQ-9 Reaper
>pilotless drones, of the sort used over Afghanistan. Perhaps
>those of us under the fly-overs are only video game blips to
>some kid at an Air National Guard console.

>Woodstock (NY) Times article Aug. 25 2011:


>Bob Berman Woodstock Times column Sept. 1, 2011:


>I still haven't seen a UFO here in 24 years in the Hudson
>Valley, though I once missed a possible sighting in a known
>hotspot (Whitley's old neighborhood) due to being on the wrong
>side of the car to see it. I still keep scanning the skies,

>Carol Maltby

There's no doubt about the fact military experimental aircraft
and other craft and material abound in the area. One lady told
J. Allen Hynek about one that landed in her yard when Dr. Hynek
did a lecture at Dutchess Community College in the late 70s that
I attended. She lived a hoot and a holler from my parents'
second home in Hyde Park. Hynek felt her story amazing enough to
just drop what he was doing and just talk to her.

We would find all sorts of parts and products of experimental
craft both military and private. The area seemed to frequently
have someone slapping together something and flying it around
scaring the wits out of people. My UFO sightings all happened
with other people around. I would be alerted that a UFO was
outside and I'd be following the crowd and lo and behold. I have
no doubt some were military craft and some private but I also
now have to admit some were more. In the beginning of this
thread I mentioned that I had come to the realization that I
hadn't seen another UFO since I'd left the region. However, I've
had a great opportunity to track down the people who were with
me when we saw these craft but only a handful will admit it.
Most others work for the government now or then or law
enforcement or major media. Are there even more witnesses? Sure
bet! Realized that with all the colleges in the area I hit their
alumni boards and asked around. The response was overwhelming.
Bard, Vassar, Dutchess Community College, Ulster Community
College, Marist College, and the Culinary Institute of America.
I went back fifty years or more with them as most alumni are
family and friends. Couldn't shut folks up and they're still

So again, with IBM there and several military bases both public
and secret, plus labs and more, you're going to have their
experiments running amok now and then. Sometimes the pilots get
arrogant and pull stunts like that one moron who strafed the
Metro North train going from Poughkeepsie to NY. It was morning
and a black helicopter literally strafed the train so close that
we could see the pilot's faces and eye color! All black copter,
pilots in dark gray suits. Scared the morning dew out of folks
and some got real riled. Right across from Storm King Mountain
on the river this happened.

What's even more interesting is that strange sightings go back
as far as records are kept. I spent ridiculous amounts of hours
going through old microfiche and records on paper as well as
family and friends and church records. The whole NY region is




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