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Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:58:44 -0300
Archived: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:56:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:59:43 -0400
>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:12:59 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>>>From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:06:03 -0400 (EDT)
>>>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>>The densest commercial traffic corridors and airspace in the
>>world is the New York TRACON (that might not be the case in a
>>few years when Bejing exceeds that) and that air space is
>>jealously guarded. Google that up on Wiki. Cripes there are AF
>>bases all over the map in that area but that doesn't mean they
>>train there other than to take off and land. They don't do
>>exercises out in reeds with impunity; period.

>>Me and thousands like me have passed through that airspace below
>>the floor of the TRACON (2,500 to 3,000 feet ASL) threading
>>through what's left between biz-jet ports and regional carrier
>>and commuter fields, etc.never mind the rising and falling
>>terrain. Unrecorded C-130s tearing around willy-nilly chasing
>>Top Secret Drones through highly populated areas and commercial
>>airspace is absurd and the province of the fringe believer.

>Don, could you clarify your last comments for me please?

>I live under a flight path for Stewart, about 5 miles southeast
>of West Shokan, one of the towns featured in the story. If you
>open up your Google Maps to New York State and get a section
>framed by Interstate 88 and Interstate 87 (NY Thruway), with the
>Ashokan Reservoir in the lower right corner, you'll see the
>small towns/hamlets like West Shokan, Chichester and Stamford
>are dotted throughout the vast, mountainous state forest lands
>of the Catskill Mountains. Populated, it ain't (let alone highly
>populated), and our regular traffic heading to Stewart is
>limited to a handful of flights.

>Are you invalidating the experiences of the people quoted, and
>saying they didn't see or hear what they saw and heard? While I
>can't personally verify that they were C-130s, a police officer
>seems to have corroborated Blake Killen's statement that that's
>one of the aircraft.

Hi Carol,

I'm invalidating their interpretation that they are seeing air
force maneuvers in other than MOAs or a public air show. If a
police officer witnessed a dangerous act then he should have
reported it. Unless recently the US was placed under Marshall
Law then FAA rules (Federal Air Regulations-FARs) apply in
civilian airspace. That's all I'm saying.

Don Ledger

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