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Re: New Official Brazilian UFO Files

From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:49:04 -0300
Archived: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:37:35 -0400
Subject: Re: New Official Brazilian UFO Files

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:10:47 -0500
>Subject: Re: New Official Brazilian UFO Files


>Or maybe, so as not to disappoint us who otherwise would be
>willing to hear you out, you could list some UFO sightings you
>regard as puzzling and suggestive.

Answering both you and Tichetti, and to mention a couple of
Brazilian cases, the "Chupa-Chupa" ("Suck-Suck") attacks related
to Operation Saucer on the Amazon during the late 1970s; as well
as the "Official UFO Night" in 1986 are both very puzzling and

They involve hundreds of independent witnesses, including
official authorities, of which the records have been taken at
the time of the events.

>Or are we to presume that you conduct your inquiries with the
>predetermined belief that there are none and that all goes to
>serve that conclusion?

On the contrary. There's a plethora of yet to be discovered
phenomena. And this, I think we all hope, will eventually
include extraterrestrial intelligence, civilizations, et al. And
much, much more, including things we don't even dream about.

>If so, I'd argue that's more ideology, which is easy, than
>actual skepticism, which is hard.

When I write that the more disclosure we see, the more the
skeptical position is favored, I'm stating a fact. Would you
claim that the ETH position is favored instead? Have the dozens
of thousands of released documents strengthened the ETH case?

Of course, when I mean skeptical position, I mean the skeptical

Arguing about ideology is ideology, Jerry, and especially when
you, like Gevaerd and Tichetti, seem to imply I somehow don't
deserve to be heard because I'm allegedly a skeptibunker with a
made up mind or something like that. Even if that were true,
ignoring relevant information I may bring up is just more
ideology and made-up minds.

The ideal that we should all be bias free is an ideal. Of course
we should be conscious and avoid our own biases, but pointing
out someone is biased simply to completely ignore his points is
just more bias. Which is indeed easy.

Only through the civilized, rational exchange between
researchers, all with their own different biases, that we can
hope that it may finally cancel each other out, somewhat, and
get closer to whatever it is that "truth" may be.

But this, of course, is simply an ideal.



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