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Re: Larry Hatch's *U* Website Up & Running

From: Isaac Koi <isaackoi.nul>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:45:49 +0100
Archived: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Larry Hatch's *U* Website Up & Running

>From: Mary Castner <m.castner.nul>
>To: PROJECT-1947.nul
>Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:30:38 -0500
>Subject: Larry Hatch's *U* Website Up & Running

>Larry Hatch's Website *U* UFO DATABASE Is Up And Running Again


That's good to see.

Hopefully Larry's condition has improved.

>Sadly, the latest versions of Windows (NT, XP) no longer support
>DOS, so the *U* UFO software will not run under them at all.

That's not entirely accurate.

With the help of several people on the Abovetopsecret.com forum
a year or so ago, I got Larry's *U* software (data and program)
running smoothly on computers with Windows XP and Windows Vista
Business operating systems. (The method used to get Larry's DOS
software itself to work is not compatible with Windows 7).

I gave details of this method on this List last year, but I'll
cut and paste below some relevant instructions from my notes for
anyone else that has Larry's floppy disc and wants to run the
database on a modern computer.

I have also exported most of the data from the *U* database into
a rather large (1210 page) Microsoft Word document - so that I
have easy access to that data on my main computers, which run
Windows 7. This isn't as easy to use, comprehensive or useful as
an Excel spreadsheet I created using CUFON's UFOCAT data (which
I find to be a useful bibliography), but Larry's data includes a
few fields not included in UFOCAT so I've found it worth having.

I severely hindered efforts on Abovetopsecret.com to come up
with a way to import the entirety of Larry's data into a modern
database or spreadsheet because I wasn't willing to email a copy
of the full database to a few people that did some fairly
impressive work based on the demo version of Larry's software.

The differences between the data stored in the demo and the full
version were just enough to prevent the version based on the
demo from working seamlessly. I got the impression that if I
emailed the full version to one of the people that worked on
this little project that the kinks could have been resolved in a
matter of hours. (I got a bit of criticism from one or two
people as being a bit old-fashioned for wanting to respect
Larry's copyright...) If Larry gives his permission for me to
send a copy of the database to one or two people, I think some
of the people involved last year would be happy to complete the

Anyway, for anyone interest the topic was discussed on
Abovetopsecret.com at:


For present purposes, I'll just repost the instructions I gave
last year to get Larry's *U* software working on computers with
Windows XP and Windows Vista Business:


With thanks for the comments so far (particularly the references
to Virtual PCs - something that was knew to me...), I am pleased
to report that I now have the full version of Larry Hatch's
database working flawlessly on a fairly modern computer using
Windows Vista Business.

After numerous dead-ends (some arising from trying to use my
main computer, which has Windows 7, which is already
incompatible with the approach outlined below), the approach
that worked was:

(1) Installing Microsoft's Virtual PC 2007 from the link below
onto a laptop I own which still has Windows Vista Business on


(2) Adding Windows 95 within that virtual PC, using the
instructions at this link:


(3) Saving the old installed files from the floppy disk (which
I've passed on from old machine to new machine several times,
without having had a floppy drive for a few computer
generations...) into an .ISO file using MiniDVDSoft's free ISO
creation software at this link:


(5) Running Window95 within Virtual PC 2007 then capturing the
.ISO image of the relevant files, copying them into a directory
on the virtual C: hard drive (into a new directory, "UFO").

(6) Running the u.exe file from that new UFO directory.

Anyone with a copy of Larry's floppy and either Windows XP or
Windows Vista Business should be able to duplicate the above
steps (without having duplicate my exploration of dead-ends...)
in a fairly short span of time.

All the best,


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