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Re: Kenneth Arnold William Rhodes & Maury Island

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:17:55 -0500
Archived: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:59:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Kenneth Arnold William Rhodes & Maury Island

>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:06:51 +0000
>Subject: Re: Kenneth Arnold William Rhodes & Maury Island

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:25:12 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Kenneth Arnold William Rhodes & Maury Island


>>Arnold's naivete is painfully obvious even in his own account,
>>as I remark when I wrote about Maury Island in the encyclopedia.
>>It seems sadly obvious that Arnold himself was so personally
>>honest that he simply lacked the necessary cynicism that would
>>have protected him from the sociopathic likes of Fred Crisman.
>>By the time Sanders spoke with him, Arnold was not thinking
>>reasonably because he was caught up in the lies Crisman told.
>>Ruppelt says something of the same in his treatment of the

>>>And, yeah, I was surprised to find out Arnold was investigating
>>>Maury Island because he was being paid by Ray Palmer. Wow, who

>>Who knew? Well, just about everybody. Arnold wrote about his
>>experience as an investigator of Maury Island in the very first
>>issue of Fate, published in the spring of 1948. He repeated the
>>story in the 1952 book he co-wrote with Ray Palmer. He spoke
>>about it at the 1976 Chicago UFO Congress which Fate sponsored.
>>Arnold was naive about Palmer, too.

>>>My purposes for reading the book was the role Crisman played in
>>>the JFK assassination.

>>And what role would that be, other than the imaginary, long-
>>discredited one?

>Exactly, but Thomas was scrupulous enough in his research to
>track down Fred Crisman's real (as far as Thomas could
>determine) work history. Oh, those sociopathic liars, the tales
>they can spin. Crisman was the great grand daddy of them all.
>The trouble was his lies seemed to impact events in U.S. and UFO

To put it mildly, I fail to see how Crisman's yarns affected
American history, a subject I know something about from a
lifetime's worth of fascination and reading. I know that Crisman
is a popular character in some conspiracy literature, but that's
not, you know, actual history.

As for UFO history: a man in black appears for the first time in
the modern era in the Maury Island narrative. (MIB do show up in
some proto-UFO stories going back decades earlier.) I suspect
that Al Bender drew on that source for his own dubious MIB
story, perhaps less a hoax than a psychological episode.

Jerry Clark

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