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Re: Ufology And Psychiatry - Summary

From: Eugene Frison <cthulhu_calls.nul>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:56:18 -0500
Archived: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:45:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Ufology And Psychiatry - Summary

>From: Cathy Reason <Cathym.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:42:17 +0100
>Subject: Re: Ufology And Psychiatry - Summary

>>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:05:17 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Ufology And Psychiatry - Summary

>>The comment that the unreliability of human perception is an
>>assumption is demonstrably wrong given the oft-demonstrated
>>variability in relevant experimental data.

>We can see how this sort of circular reasoning operates in the
>case of visual illusions.

>To the vision researcher, these offer an opportunity to examine
>the mechanisms by which the brain extracts information from the
>visual world. By constructing experimental artifacts, one can
>test hypotheses based on how the visual system behaves in highly
>novel and constrained situations.

>Psychologists on the other hand proceed from the premise that
>all human perception is unreliable. The purpose of all
>experiments is then to provide an ever-lengthening list of
>examples of unreliable perception. It matters not that these
>examples are largely artifacts - the premise dictates the

This might have some weight if the premise that all human
perception is unreliable is false. But it's not. It has so much
backing it up that it's a pretty solid premise to start with.

I don't know how you can argue that human perception produces an
accurate picture of reality. I'm going to repeat one of my
earlier comments: physics informs us that all matter is
constructed out of molecules, that molecules are composed of
atoms, that atoms consist of subatomic particles, and that
subatomic particles are energy - energy that is colorless,
odorless, temperatureless. Recent research indicates that these
quanta exist as ubiquitous fields of energy, are holographic in
nature, and are holograms projected from a higher dimensional
structure. Reality is based on interference patterns. Is that
what you see when you look at a tree, a car, or a dog? Because I
know I certainly don't. I don't know anybody else that does

There is no such thing as red or blue light. There is a field of
energy composed of electric and magnetic vectors propagating at
right angles through space, of a frequency (rate of vibration)
that causes the brain to create the experience of red or blue.
There is no red or blue color anywhere in the electromagnetic
field itself.

It is the same with our experiences of sound, form, texture,
temperature, taste, or smell.

The above information comes from _physics_ not from psychology.
It supports psychology's contentions regarding human perception.
It alone shows human perception does not show things as they
really are. We don't even have to go near psychology; physics by
itself demolishes any possibility that human perception is
accurate or producing pictures of what is out there.

You do not want to accept this premise as a valid one, so
everything that comes forth to further support its veracity, to
you, is simply "experiments to produce an ever- lengthening list
of examples of unreliable perception" rather than evidence that
further supports the premise.

What psychology does when it proceeds from this premise is no
different from what other fields of science do when they proceed
from a premise that they view as valid (having been well
established) in their field.

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