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Re: The UFO Bestiary - Shostak

From: Dave Morton <Marspyrs.nul>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:27:08 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:53:57 -0400
Subject: Re: The UFO Bestiary - Shostak

>The UFO Bestiary
>Seth Shostak:

>Source: Huffpost

>Posted: 04/27/2012

>You may not see massive UFO exhibits at your local science museum,
>but there's no dearth of saucer stories infesting my email.
>Every day I receive several reports of alien sightings,
>extraterrestrial plans for Earth, and agitated screeds about the
>reluctance of scientists to take the whole subject seriously.
>Plenty of people think they have convincing evidence for other-
>worldly visitors, and they want me to know.

>Allow me to first note that this is a phenomenon worthy of
>attention. If aliens are really hanging out in our 'hood,
>it's hard to imagine any other fact more worthy of study.
>If not, then why does such a large fraction of the populace
>insist on believing they're here?


>The fact is, if you're certain that our planet is hosting alien
>visitors, the way to gain acceptance for your point of view is
>to prove it, not insist that the problem lies with third
>parties. The blame game is a cop-out.

This debunking article by Seth Shostak wasn't as bad as I thought
it would be. For example, when he states "The blame game is a
cop-out." - blaming the government for holding all the 'good'
evidence - is a fair statement if it's true. But it's not true.

While we know that the government is holding _some_ of the best
evidence, it certainly isn't concealing _all_ of it. Photos,
movies, trace markings, testimony, confessions, body markings,
and official slip-ups have made their way into the literature by
the thousands. With sightings over thousands of years in
hundreds of countries, the government wasn't able to withhold
all the evidence of UFO's, and it leaked out - poured out - by
the gallon, over many centuries.

We also know for a fact that the government conceals as much
evidence as possible and tries to confuse the public. Think of
the Ramey memo: "The victims of the wreck... misstate meaning of
story... press release of weather balloons... stage photos -
yes...". This was the Roswell incident as handled by the
government in 1947. Mislead the public and hide the evidence.
And the security classification of the telegram? Top Secret. We
now have "Mislead the public, hide the evidence, and hide the
memo." We know from the memo there's evidence, but the public
hasn't seen it, therefore the government is hiding it.

Have _you_ seen pictures of "the victims of the wreck" released
by the Army? Have you seen "the wreck"?

Yet Shostak says the UFO people are ambitious and have no proof
of a government cover-up, and Shostak is an honorable man.

The government has brought many captives 'home to Rome' whose
bodies did the child-sized coffins fill. Is it wrong to mention

Shostak is basically a Big Yawn. He apparently hasn't bothered
to read anything worthwhile on the subject, look at any clear
pictures of UFO's, watch any movies of UFO's, etc. Asking him to
write an article on UFO's is like asking a young child to solve
some complex equations involving trigonometry. It can't be done.
I would never do that to a kid, and Shostak shouldn't make
himself suffer, either, trying to explain something he knows
nothing about.

Give it up, Seth. Have some milk and cookies, and run out and play.

Dave Morton

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