From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:18:14 -0400 Archived: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:52:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Greer Probes 'Dead Alien' >From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 09:23:07 -0300 >Subject: Re: Greer Probes 'Dead Alien' >>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:52:08 -0400 >>Subject: Re: Greer Probes 'Dead Alien' >>>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul> >>>To: <post.nul> >>>Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:56:30 -0300 >>>Subject: Re: Greer Probes 'Dead Alien' <snip> >>>Seriously? If so, I am amazed to see how far can Greer go. >>Stephen Greer, like his simulacrum, The Joker, is an agent of chaos. >Very interesting input, John. >Some hoaxers are in it for money, others for fame, others for >power, others for women (yes), etc. Some are in it for the >combination of it all. And some don't care about money, but do >about power for instance. >However, Greer has shown to exercise a particular agenda. I am >sure he is in it for a lot of what I wrote above, but there is >more in his actions that makes me believe that he is what you >described: an agent of chaos. <snip> Hi AJ, Long time no speak. People that know me are aware that I usually mean what I say. My comment was not flippant in any way (or intended to be.) The public has a short memory. John Alexander wrote that when Greer arrived on the scene in the 90's attempts at disclosure/congressional hearings was already well under way. Mr. Alexander informs us that several senators were a part of the discussions and more were being approached and brought on-board. The timing of Greer's appearance on the scene with his own very noisy and public CSETI* sponsored Disclosure Project (*scam; three ring circus) the senators ran for the hills and all the talks fell apart. The 'real' disclosure effort was completely thwarted by Greer's grab for public attention. He introduced a side-show quality to the proceedings that sent the more serious people involved running for safety. Who wants to be associated with a clown show? Greer was flying around in private jets in those days. Private jets are expensive. There was never any 'disclosure' about his own funding sources. More: Stephen Greer went to Scotland in the 90's and absconded with/ripped off, a UFO video that belonged to a couple of Scottish UFO researchers. After a conference, Greer had grabbed the tape out of one of the researchers hotel rooms, boarded his private Jet and headed home. The Scots immediately appealed to US UFO research people to help them get their video tape back from Greer. He was eventually publicly embarrassed into giving it back. But it was like pulling teeth to get Greer to do the right thing. Greer's organization, CSETI is a sucker scam. Greer used to charge over $400, (not sure what he's charging these days) for people to join CSETI and participate in their attempts at alien contact out in the field. (Literally! Cow pastures etc.) Budd Hopkins once shared a revealing anecdote with me about Greer and his 'summoning of UFOs' at one of these CSETI field trips; Greer would suddenly shout out, "There's one over there!" According to Budd, there was _nothing_ there to be seen. But his group of CSETI-ers would be frantically running around in the cow pasture at night signalling the sky with their flash-lights and hoping to catch a glimpse of the alien visitor. Those prople should have all known better. Anytime you spend $400 to do something and all you end up with is cow-flop on your cowboy boots... you need to re-think what you're doing. There is nothing that is associated with Stephen Greer that isn't tainted with dis-information, deception, or outright chicanery. The very definition of an agent of chaos. If _anybody_ works for a group or organization that is hell-bent on creating a circus atmosphere around anything related to UFOs, it is Stephen Greer. AJ, I hope this note finds you and yours happy, healthy and prospering. Some things just need restating from time to time. Amnesia of the public. Warm regards, John Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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