From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:23:21 -0400 Archived: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:33:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Greer Sabotaged 'Real' Disclosure [was: Greer >From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> >To: UFO UpDates <post.nul> >Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:29:29 +0100 >Subject: Greer Sabotaged 'Real' Disclosure [was: Greer Probes Dead Alien] >>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:52:08 -0400 >>Subject: Re: Greer Probes 'Dead Alien' >>John Alexander wrote that when Greer arrived on the scene in the >>90's attempts at disclosure/congressional hearings was already >>well under way. Mr. Alexander informs us that several senators >>were a part of the discussions and more were being approached >>and brought on-board. The timing of Greer's appearance on the >>scene with his own very noisy and public CSETI* sponsored >>Disclosure Project (*scam; three ring circus) the senators ran >>for the hills and all the talks fell apart. >>The 'real' disclosure effort was completely thwarted by Greer's >>grab for public attention. He introduced a side-show quality to the >>proceedings that sent the more serious people involved running >>for safety. Who wants to be associated with a clown show? >John, I find this notion of Greer thwarting some 'real' >disclosure effort a little hard to believe. >Isn't Alexander's latest view that the US government holds no >UFO secrets and that there is no 'cover-up? >So what would these 'real' disclosures, have disclosed? Hi Dave, The article I am referring to has to be more than 12 to 15 years old. Honest, I just can't recall now where I read it, could have been right here on UFO UpDates, but it was so long ago, that the source escapes me. I do recall 'what' I read however. It made a deep impression on me. Regardless of any subsequent 'polar shifts' in, John Alexander's positions regarding UFO's, he did state clearly that several congressmen and senators were actively planning to introduce a request for Congressional hearings on the subject of UFOs. According to Alexander, (again, my apology for not being able to recall _where_ I read this,) the stage the talks had reached with the politicians was; a discussion centering on waiving penalties for government or military witnesses who could be held in violation of their security oaths. There was a lot to lose for potential government/military witnesses several of which were already on- board to testify before congress but who were only awaiting guarantees of immunity from security oaths taken during their active service. Alexander went on to say how, Stephen Greer's "CSETI Disclosure effort" sent all the more serious people, along with potential witnesses running for the hills. Many of them were already very timid about associating their names with anything connected to UFOs. Greer's very public and well publicized three ring circus, blew all that was going on (behind the scenes,) clean out of the water. That's the comments on Greer that I recall Alexander made. Again, this is all from a time when I was active in 'ufology', so it has to be 12 or more years old, at least. Wish I had more detailed info regarding the source of the article, Dave. As I said earlier, it's just been so long... Regards to All, John Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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