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Re: Greer Sabotaged 'Real' Disclosure [was: Greer

From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:23:21 -0400
Archived: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:33:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Greer Sabotaged 'Real' Disclosure [was: Greer

>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 21:29:29 +0100
>Subject: Greer Sabotaged 'Real' Disclosure [was: Greer Probes Dead Alien]

>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:52:08 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Greer Probes 'Dead Alien'

>>John Alexander wrote that when Greer arrived on the scene in the
>>90's attempts at disclosure/congressional hearings was already
>>well under way. Mr. Alexander informs us that several senators
>>were a part of the discussions and more were being approached
>>and brought on-board. The timing of Greer's appearance on the
>>scene with his own very noisy and public CSETI* sponsored
>>Disclosure Project (*scam; three ring circus) the senators ran
>>for the hills and all the talks fell apart.

>>The 'real' disclosure effort was completely thwarted by Greer's
>>grab for public attention. He introduced a side-show quality to the
>>proceedings that sent the more serious people involved running
>>for safety. Who wants to be associated with a clown show?

>John, I find this notion of Greer thwarting some 'real'
>disclosure effort a little hard to believe.

>Isn't Alexander's latest view that the US government holds no
>UFO secrets and that there is no 'cover-up?

>So what would these 'real' disclosures, have disclosed?

Hi Dave,

The article I am referring to has to be more than 12 to 15 years
old. Honest, I just can't recall now where I read it, could have
been right here on UFO UpDates, but it was so long ago, that the
source escapes me. I do recall 'what' I read however. It made a
deep impression on me.

Regardless of any subsequent 'polar shifts' in, John Alexander's
positions regarding UFO's, he did state clearly that several
congressmen and senators were actively planning to introduce a
request for Congressional hearings on the subject of UFOs.
According to Alexander, (again, my apology for not being able to
recall _where_ I read this,) the stage the talks had reached
with the politicians  was; a discussion centering on waiving
penalties for government or military witnesses who could be held
in violation of their security oaths. There was a lot to lose
for potential government/military witnesses several of which
were already on- board to testify before congress but who were
only awaiting guarantees of immunity from security oaths taken
during their active service.

Alexander went on to say how, Stephen Greer's "CSETI Disclosure
effort" sent all the more serious people, along with potential
witnesses running for the hills. Many of them were already very
timid about associating their names with anything connected to
UFOs. Greer's very public and well publicized three ring circus,
blew all that was going on (behind the scenes,) clean out of the

That's the comments on Greer that I recall Alexander made.
Again, this is all from a time when I was active in 'ufology',
so it has to be 12 or more years old, at least.

Wish I had more detailed info regarding the source of the
article, Dave. As I said earlier, it's just been so long...

Regards to All,


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