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Re: Kathy Kasten Passes

From: Robert Morningstar <robert_morningstar.nul>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 11:38:37 -0700 (PDT)
Archived: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:49:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Kathy Kasten Passes

>From: Rich Heiden <rwheidenu.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Kathy Kasten Passes

>>From: Robert Morningstar <robert_morningstar.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
>>Subject: Kathy Kasten Passes

>>I regret to inform you of the death of Kathy Kasten, a long-time
>>researcher of UFOs.

>>Kathy Kasten, aged 72, passed away in in a Phoenix hospital on
>>Tuesday, August 7th. Kathy died of cardiac arrest in the
>>hospital, after complaining of shallow breathing and collapsing
>>at home, as she and her life long friend, Dr. Joyce Hansen,
>>waited for an ambulance.

>>Dr. Hansen called me to inform me of Kathy's death, and asked me
>>to inform those who knew her on this List of her passing.

>>Knowing Kathy well (as a friend/antagonist and adversary) since
>>1997, I am sure that she would be pleased to hear me say, in

>>I shall always remember KK...

>>She will missed...
>>and, on the other hand,
>>She will not be missed.
>>But she will be remembered.

>I am among the Listers who are saddened by the recent death of
>Kathy Kasten. I knew her in the 1980's when she lived in
>Milwaukee, on one occasion spending an evening in her home, just
>the two of us talking, late into the night. (She said she was a
>distant relative of Bob Kasten, U.S. Senator from Wisconsin,

>I saw Kathy's name a couple of times in Jim Moseley's Saucer
>Smear, and knew she had moved out West, but never reconnected
>with her until recently, thanks to her e-mail address in one of
>her UFO UpDates posts. Other Listers might be interested in
>our brief exchange, as it includes a paranormal incident in
>Kathy's past.


>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 11:01:59 -0700
>From: r**.nul
>Subject: phone calls from the dead
>To: catraja.nul


>I hope you are well.

>I see you often on Errol Bruce-Knapp's UFO UpDates, and am
>reminded of when I knew you in Milwaukee. On one occasion you
>told me about a call [apparently] from your just-deceased
>grandmother, though unfortunately you weren't in the office to
>take it.

>Maybe you get Fortean Times and already saw it, but the current
>issue (#289, July 2012, which I got just yesterday), pp. 18-19,
>is about phone calls from the dead. Mostly citing a new book,
>but adding a call in which Dennis Barden's mother called him by
>his toddler-hood name. The magazine is sold in Barnes & Noble
>and elsewhere.



>RE: phone calls from the dead
>Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:46 PM
>From: "KATHY KASTEN" <catraja.nul>
>To: r***.nul


>Of course I remember you. And, I remember receiving a phone call
>at work - Veteran's Administration in Jackson, MS - from someone
>calling me by a name only my grandmother used for me. When I got
>home from work and called family in Milwaukee, I was told that
>my grandmother was dead and the time she died. Because of the
>time of death, there was no way my grandmother made a phone call
>in the physical. She had always accepted that humans were more
>then their physical bodies.

>There was a guest on Coast to Coast talking about his book which
>discussed his research into the "phone calls from the dead."

>The phone call from my grandmother would fall into the category
>of "witnessed" communication.




Hello, Rich...

Thank you for your message. This explains why KK asked me to
work with her in researching EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomena).

I am sure that she is now on the other side trying to figure out
how to make phone calls like her Grandmother did.

KK was seriously interested in the possible development of EVP
to communicate across the boundary between life and death. With
both of us having had many "ghost experiences and visitations
from the "dearly departed", there is/was no doubt in our minds
as to the existence of the "after life", and the idea of
communication with the other side is not beyond reason.

I think one of the most brilliant ideas that I've ever read in
UFO research is that of Whitley Strieber, who - in his first ET
novel, Communion - posited the idea of the existence of "a
technology on the other side of death" that makes it possible
for ETs (and ghosts) to cross an interdimensional boundary, but
only for limited periods of time. Personally, I believe that
such a "technology" - based on "supercold" - exists, and makes
"apparitions" (ghost images or ETs) possible.

I theorize, from my personal experiences, that what we used to
call "ectoplasm", may in fact be a manifestation of the Bose-
Einstein Condensate, produced by Supercold Technology from "the
other side".

Robert Morningstar
Editor, UFO Digest

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