From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:19:28 +0100 Archived: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 07:24:46 -0400 Subject: Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America >From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul> >Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:53:00 -0300 >To: post.nul >Subject: Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America >>>From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul> >>>To: <post.nul> >>>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:17:30 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America >>>>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul> >>>>To: <post.nul> >>>>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:41:39 +0100 >>>>Subject: 'Snowflake' Video From South America >>>>http://tinyurl.com/c6c5pfu >>>Subtracting the erratic camera motion and measuring the position >>>of the light relative to the house window, I think the object >>>seems to drift slowly up and to the left over the rooftop during >>>the video. This makes me think of a bright star or planet. But >>>of course with no direction or time information to go on it's >>>hard to say. The pattern of lights hints at some optical or >>>video artefact but I haven't seen an effect exactly like this >>>before. Any thoughts? >>>Very odd. Note the geometric pattern of smaller lights >>>surrounding the central light. Assuming, for the time being, >>>that this is prosaic, the only thing I could think of was a >>>tethered balloon with some kind of LED rig attached. >>That would be my initial guess as well. I've seen similar stuff >>at the Burning Man Festival. I don't think it a hoax of the >>cameraman, just a prosaic, human-made group of lights seen at >>night, therefore the cameraman was unable to see such things as >>a balloon that is suspending it. >I agree, incidents involving fake "UFOs" which are in fact LED >lights suspended by kites are somewhat common in South America. >See this 2007 case in Rosario Argentina (scroll down): >http://tinyurl.com/att5zp >And this quite elaborate one in Brazil, from Embu >das Artes in 2011, exposed as a rig from the beggining by late >Ufologist Claudeir Covo (the videos are now offline, but a search >for the Embu das Artes UFO will quickly return several results): >http://forgetomori.com/2011/ufos/ufos-made-in-brazil/ >The region where the video pointed by Martin was shot seems to >be a place where UFO interest is very high. One can find several >UFO videos on Youtube, by different groups of people, by >searching fro "Palmira UFOs". That also includes this joke: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3uQ4FBZLUE >Though the pattern of lights do look like an optical artifact >(or a deliberate optical effect), I'm more inclined to view it >as a rig of LED lights in exactly that pattern, suspended by a >kite (or possibly a balloon). >The cameraman may or may not have been involved in the prank, >but it very probably is just a prank. With a LED lights. Hi Kentaro The LED kite cases are interesting. In tbis case my feeling is that a kite would probably not drift steadily to the left and up, as on the video. A balloon might. But the motion is much more like that of a celestial object in my opinion. I'd expect that a framework carrying a snowflake-like array of LEDs dangling from a kite or balloon would be free to rotate around a vertical axis, changing aspect from circular to elliptical and back as it did so, not remain face-on to the camera the whole time. In fact the only rotation visible (to me) is a rotation around the line of sight, i.e. like a wheel face-on to the camera. This occurs a couple times, a few degrees clockwise or anticlockwise, then back. This is the sort of rotation you might expect to see due to a rotated filter but would be very difficult to replicate with some sort of electromechanical gadget hanging from a balloon. But i suppose it could be done if a hoaxer was very motivated. Martin Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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