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Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America

From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:52:48 -0300
Archived: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:23:15 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America

>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:19:28 +0100
>Subject: Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America

>>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:53:00 -0300
>>To: post.nul
>>Subject: Re: 'Snowflake' Video From South America

>>this quite elaborate one in Brazil, from Embu
>>das Artes in 2011, exposed as a rig from the beggining by late
>>Ufologist Claudeir Covo (the videos are now offline, but a search
>>for the Embu das Artes UFO will quickly return several results):

>>Though the pattern of lights do look like an optical artifact
>>(or a deliberate optical effect), I'm more inclined to view it
>>as a rig of LED lights in exactly that pattern, suspended by a
>>kite (or possibly a balloon).

>The LED kite cases are interesting. In tbis case my feeling is
>that a kite would probably not drift steadily to the left and
>up, as on the video. A balloon might. But the motion is much
>more like that of a celestial object in my opinion.

That would be my opinion too, in the Embu case I - like other
researchers - thought the LED rig must have been suspended by a
balloon tied to the ground, given its mostly stationary position
over several minutes. Turns out a kite tied to the ground can be
surprisingly stable, or show somewhat uniform movement, over
that time span.

Here's a similar UFO from Brazil, Limeira:


Which is more clearly a LED rig suspended by a kite. Also, the
image quality is much better than the Palmira video, which was
probably captured by a low-end cell phone camera.

>I'd expect that a framework carrying a snowflake-like array of
>LEDs dangling from a kite or balloon would be free to rotate
>around a vertical axis, changing aspect from circular to
>elliptical and back as it did so, not remain face-on to the
>camera the whole time.

See the similar LED rig "UFOs" on Youtube.

>In fact the only rotation visible (to me) is a rotation around
>the line of sight, i.e. like a wheel face-on to the camera. This
>occurs a couple times, a few degrees clockwise or anticlockwise,
>then back. This is the sort of rotation you might expect to see
>due to a rotated filter but would be very difficult to replicate
>with some sort of electromechanical gadget hanging from a
>balloon. But i suppose it could be done if a hoaxer was very

On the Embu case, the author went to the length of creating a
contraption that made the rig rotate, physically. He didn't give
details, but it was probably powered by the wind or had an
actual electrical motor. It's often the case that the rotation
is simply a light effect between the ring of LEDs, but on the
Palmira video the slight rotation of the rig could be simply due
to the wind and the constraints of the rig tied to the kite and

Unfortunately the video is anonymous as far as I could tell -
Oscar Ruiz Ful is simply someone who reproduced the video. In
any event we all agree it's interesting, but probably just a
prank, regardless if the the cameraman was involved or not.
Again, the area seems to be a hotbed of UFO interest, including
light-hearted jokes.



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