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Anti-Semitism and Ufology [was: Nick Pope's

From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:33:03 +0200 (CEST)
Archived: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:05:07 -0400
Subject: Anti-Semitism and Ufology [was: Nick Pope's


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:59:36 -0500
>Subject: Re: Nick Pope's Credibility Blown

>>From: Paul Kimball <paulkimball.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:07:39 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Nick Pope's Credibility Blown

<snip>

>>There are far worse things that damage the "reputation" of
>>ufology than people like Nick earning a living by working for
>>advertisers from time to time. For example, the casual anti-
>>Semitism that has been an undercurrent of ufology (and
>>conspiracy theory in the broader context) for decades now. This
>>almost never gets a mention by the people busy bashing someone
>>like Nick (or by anyone, for that matter - it's a dirty little
>>secret). Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel used UFOs as a way to
>>lure impressionable young people into his web of hate years ago,
>>which is the most odious example, but a look at the Jeff Rense
>>website will give plenty of other examples. And yet many people
>>on this List have appeared on Rense's show (myself included
>>once, without having first looked into who he was or what he was
>>about - a mistake I never made again), and continue to do so.
>>Others post or re-post material from his hate-filled website.

>>I think some people on this List have their priorities way out
>>of whack.

<snip>

>As one who's written on the subject, I cannot agree that anti-
>Semitism is anything other than a fringe theme in UFO-themed
>writing. Ernst Zundel was far off the charts. He made a lot of
>noise but exercised little influence. Persons who appear on Jeff
>Rense's show are not endorsing his obnoxious views; mostly,
>they're naive about them - for which, no doubt, they merit
>criticism. That doesn't make them conscious bigots, however.

>Anti-Semitism, usually thinly veiled in talk of "International
>Bankers," was an occasional undercurrent in the contactee
>subculture of the 1950s, and it was possible to hear some echoes
>in the late, unlamented Dark Side movement of the latter 1980s.
>But within the mainstream of UFO discourse, anti-Semitism has
>been a very minor issue.

>Of course, it ought to be condemned wherever it shows its ugly
>face. My own observation is that many ufologists are clueless in
>matters of politics and history - in other words, they're
>identical to most of their fellow citizens. On the other hand,
>individuals obsessed with hatreds based on religion, race, and
>the like don't seem especially attracted to ufology as such, as
>the history of our subject - about which I know a thing or two -
>attests.

>In my lifetime of interacting with colleagues, I recall being
>exposed personally to a single anti-Semitic slur, that by a
>since-deceased, prominent figure from across the water. It was
>so unusual and unexpected that it has stuck in memory.
 
There s certainly a link between ufology and anti-Semitism. Part
of it has to do with the link between ufology and a conspiracy
theory worldview in which phrases such as conspiracy of
international bankers and small group of families who secretly
rule the world are sometimes code for something more sinister.
But the situation is more complex than this.

Things like this muddy the waters:

http://tvoyic.blogspot.com/

It's not clear whether this sort of thing is thinly-veiled anti-
Semitism, or just an incredibly na=EFve over-simplification of a
desperately sad political situation where there s fault on all
sides. But when a blog begins with the phrase Not all Israelis
are bad , I m reminded of the racist who begins his rant with
phrases like don t get me wrong, I ve got black friends, but ...

But when such individuals do surface, and skulk around on the
fringes of ufology, the UFO community should probably be wary.
Best wishes,


Nick Pope
http://www.nickpope.net




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