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Re: Anti-Semitism And Ufology

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:44:20 -0500
Archived: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:15:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism And Ufology

>From: Michael Hughes <michaelmhughes.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:34:41 -0400
>Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism And Ufology

>>From: Cathy Reason <Cathym.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:00:43 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Anti-Semitism And Ufology

>>>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:33:03 +0200 (CEST)
>>>Subject: Anti-Semitism And Ufology [was: Nick Pope's Credibility



>>>It's not clear whether this sort of thing is thinly-veiled anti-
>>>Semitism, or just an incredibly na=EFve over-simplification of a
>>>desperately sad political situation where there s fault on all
>>>sides. But when a blog begins with the phrase Not all Israelis
>>>are bad , I m reminded of the racist who begins his rant with
>>>phrases like don t get me wrong, I ve got black friends, but ...

>>What a load of ghastly, patronizing, liberal-minded mush.

>>I wonder when Nick Pope is going to hop over to the Middle East
>>and offer up a few more helpful liberal catchphrases, such as
>>"Let's all come to a consensus" or "Now then, you kids just stop

>>This sort of paternalistic rubbish may not technically count as
>>anti-semitism, but it comes pretty darn close.

>As the person who has probably talked about this topic the most
>on this list in recent history (in my comments about Jeff
>Rense), I, too, find McGonagle's statements unsettling. And
>images like these go way over the top:


>As others have noted, saying, "Not all Israelis are bad", is a
>very bad way to start a discussion.

>But I'd wager a large sum of money that Joe isn't an anti-
>Semite. He's justifiably outraged at the most egregious
>activities of the Israeli government. Notice I said "Israeli
>government". The second word is important.

>Language is crucial when discussing contentious issues.
>"Israelis" are a diverse population, a large portion of whom do
>not approve of their government's activities. And, as we've all
>seen with people like Rense, real anti-Semites use such blanket
>generalizations, and soon "Israelis" is changed to "Zionists"
>and then "Zionists" becomes "all Jews" .

>Language - it makes all the difference.

I agree on all points, Michael. Well stated as always.

Jerry Clark

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