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Re: Ventura Bigelow FAA & UFO Info

From: Peter Davenport <director.nul>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:47:26 -0800
Archived: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 22:57:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Ventura Bigelow FAA & UFO Info

>Source: Robert Salas' Facebook page


>Friday 7 December 2012

>I don't usually pay much attention to schlock TV of this kind
>(meant to shock, titillate, entertain, amaze, and amuse).


>However, in this case, kudos to Jesse Ventura for shining some
>light on Robert Bigelow.

This issue first came to my attention at NUFORC on June 21,
2000, I believe it was. NIDS released a statement, on that date,
to the effect that, in the future, all UFO sighting reports made
to FAA facilities would be shunted to Bigelow's organization in
Las Vegas.

In very short order, I contacted the FAA in Washington, D.C., to
inquire whether the report was accurate, and after a
considerable amount of unnecessary bureaucratic delay, the FAA
finally confirmed that they thought the claim appeared to be
correct... although they could not be sure. (!!)

I immediately lodged a complaint with the FAA, and, for months,
was handed from one office to another. Interestingly, no one in
the FAA could determine who it was who had made the decision,
although some of the individuals with whom I spoke suggested one
office, or another, certainly must have been the source of the
new policy...

I retained the services of an attorney, who wrote a letter,
contesting the new policy. After that letter, and more than
some twenty months of haggling with employees at FAA
headquarters, I still did not know who it was who had made the
decision, and it was painfully evident that nobody wanted to
take responsibility for the apparent change!

I finally wrote a letter, requesting that the FAA place the
names and contact information in the Airman's Information Manual
for six major UFO organizations, NUFORC, MUFON, CUFOS, FUFOR,
NARCAP, and NIDS. In the final analysis, they published the
names and contact numbers of just two, NUFORC and NIDS, contact
information for which can be seen in the 2004 edition of the

The full story of what NIDS' and Alexander's roles in all of
this were would be interesting to know. Clearly, the initial
attempt to have a revision to the AIM effected was done under
the "cover of darkness." The only remaining question would be
how the FAA personnel were motivated to make the change. The
fact that no one in the FAA appeared to want to take
responsibility for the change was intriguing, I felt.

The bottom line to all of this is that NUFORC, and I presume,
other UFO organizations as well, still receive telephone calls
from FAA facilities and personnel. I believe that I receive as
many calls over the NUFORC Hotline from FAA stations and control
towers as we always did, so I suspect that whatever changes
BAASS and Alexander (?) were able to elicit have not had much
effect. There apparently are many people in the FAA, who are
aware of NUFORC, and who routinely call our Center every year to
confirm that we are still in operation.

I invite the UFO community to keep in mind the above incident,
when considering whether they wish to co-operate with Bigelow's
team. There have been other unexplained incidents that may lead
in their direction, as well, I believe, but absent proof, it is
pointless to address them here.

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