UFO UpDates
A mailing list for the study of UFO-related phenomena
'Its All Here In Black & White'
Location: UFOUpDatesList.Com > 2012 > Dec > Dec 14

Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:22:33 -0800
Archived: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 07:44:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:42:06 -0400
>Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:07:58 -0000
>>Subject: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>>At Last, How Many Alien Civilizations Are There?
>This is pretty silly. Drake vastly underestimated the number of
>planets in the Milky way... see the results of the Kepler
>spacecraft. He also totally neglected the two processes involved
>in distributing people around earth, namely colonization and

>Travel has changed greatly as well... Magellan's ship took 3
>years to go around the planet. The Space station does it in 90
>minutes. You get some idea of why I think SETI stands for Silly
>Effort To Investigate.

Quite! There is the hidden assumption in these calculations that
interstellar migration is impossible. This is not a scientific
assumption but dogma. There are many conceivable ways that such
migrations could take place without resorting to assumptions of
Star Trekian warp drives, but at sub-light speeds.

E.g., assume machine intelligence and length of travel doesn't
really matter. Time to nearest star at a very modest 1% light
speed is then less than 500 years. NASA propulsion experts for
years have been thinking in terms of 10% light speed for a

Once migration enters the calculation, the numbers of possible
civilizations could soar from the thousands to the billions and
nearest civilizations could be next door instead of thousands of
light years away.

Ironically Fermi in his famous paradox assumed that very
advanced civilizations would have interstellar travel and they
should be all over the place by now if ET civilizations existed.
So why aren't they here (the "paradox")?

Of course, many of us here turn that on its head saying they are
here and the evidence is the UFO phenomenon that many scientists
refuse to even look at. If they are here, then there is no
paradox, just a refusal by some to look objectively at the
evidence right under their noses.

David Rudiak

Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast



These contents above are copyright of the author and
UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced
without the express permission of both parties and
are intended for educational use only.

[ Next Message | This Day's Messages ]
This Month's Index |

UFO UpDates Main Index

UFO UpDates - Toronto - Operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp

Archive programming by Glenn Campbell at Glenn-Campbell.com