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Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:28:23 -0600
Archived: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:14:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation


>From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 08:08:53 -0800
>Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:22:33 -0800
>>Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>>Quite! There is the hidden assumption in these calculations that
>>interstellar migration is impossible. This is not a scientific
>>assumption but dogma. There are many conceivable ways that such
>>migrations could take place without resorting to assumptions of
>>Star Trekian warp drives, but at sub-light speeds.

>>E.g., assume machine intelligence and length of travel doesn't
>>really matter. Time to nearest star at a very modest 1% light
>>speed is then less than 500 years. NASA propulsion experts for
>>years have been thinking in terms of 10% light speed for a
>>probe.

>David,

>If Einstein is correct, then travel by even a grain of sand,
>using external energy (so fuel wouldn't have to be carried), at
>the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe.
>So if we travel at 10% of the speed of light, does that require
>10% of the energy in the universe? And that's just to power a
>grain of sand.

>Under these circumstances, I don't think star travel is probable
>or will ever be possible. Yes we have visitors, but a more
>mundane explanation is possible: we share our planet with an
>ancient civilization.

And they live inside Mount Shasta and have a third eye set in
the middle of their foreheads.


Jerry Clark



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