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Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 09:52:15 -0600
Archived: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:53:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation


>From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:11:57 -0800
>Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:28:23 -0600
>>Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>>>Under these circumstances, I don't think star travel is probable
>>>or will ever be possible. Yes we have visitors, but a more
>>>mundane explanation is possible: we share our planet with an
>>>ancient civilization.

>>And they live inside Mount Shasta and have a third eye set in
>>the middle of their foreheads.

>Jerry,

>I speculate from reported sightings that some of these creatures
>live on mother-ships capable of cruising around the solar
>system. Others live under the oceans, and in the Arctic and
>Antarctica. Their technology allows them to live where they
>choose to live, probably depending on security. Their
>civilization could be as much as 200 million years older than
>human civilization. There's good reason to believe that they've
>been with us for a long time and we do "bump" into them every
>once in a while. These encounters are your bread and butter. I
>don't understand your reluctance to even consider the
>possibility that an ancient civilization is responsible.

>Archaeologists haven't discovered their ruins, yet. But we don't
>find much else from 200 million years ago, either. It must be
>obvious that these creatures don't want a direct encounter with
>humans, for now.

>With that in mind, they could have destroyed all evidence of
>their past existence. Who knows what motivates them. Perhaps
>they're crazy, as Sanderson suspected.

>There's nothing scientifically that precludes any of these
>possibilities. Convergent evolution indicates a way that it
>could have happened, tool-making being the common denominator.

>The ancient civilization hypothesis should at least be given the
>same consideration as ETH or experience anomalies.

Sometimes, Ed, the absence of evidence is indeed absence of
evidence.

As I've observed before, you're just putting your own spin on
tired, discredited esoteric beliefs about secret races, the sort
of thing that has long found expression in myths of lost
continents, the hollow earth, the Shaver mystery, Jessup's
space-faring pygmies, and all the rest - not to mention a
considerable body of fantasy and science-fiction literature. I
wrote about such things at length in my book Hidden Realms
(Visible Ink Press, 2010), in case any listfolk are interested
in studying the background.

In short, what you're doing is both baseless _and_ unoriginal.

If ufologists had wanted to marginalize themselves even more
than they already are, they would have embraced this nonsense
and become the equivalents of flat-earthers. It's a relief that
you've had so little success in recruiting others to your cause,
frankly.


Jerry Clark



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