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Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:02:01 -0600
Archived: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:57:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:07:58 -0000
>Subject: Update To Our View Of The Drake Equation

Gentlemen, List:

As I have pointed out in a previous post:

-"...The speed 'limit' of electromagnetic radiation is ~300,000 km/s,
-but this applies to EM radiation only. Nothing precludes FTL
-travel for other things, like gravity, or magnetic fields, which are
-instantaneous. Since particles can only be accelerated by
-electric fields, it follows that they can never exceed the speed
-of light. Since only charged particles can be accelerated, their
-speed is self-limited by their interaction with the accelerating
-field. Hotson explains exactly how this speed limit works for
-radiated fields. Matter may not be speed limited, but there
-isn't yet a way of testing this. Mass, inertia and gravitation
-are interesting aspects of the vacuum BEC; please review.

Since the speed of charged particles is field self limited, and
their mass is calculated based on the energy needed to
accelerate them, Einstein's equations certainly work for this
special case, but there is no rationale for applying them to
uncharged particles. Since EM radiation is the fastest thing
known to science, how are we then able to accelerate any
uncharged particle faster than light? It's a conundrum.

The mass increase with speed, and the infinite energy
requirements are fictitious, as is 'time dilation'.

Now, we all agree on the amount of energy required to accelerate
matter to speeds well under c, the speed of light. We all agree
that moving bodies have kinetic energy proportional to 'mv'
(mass * velocity). A 1 kilometer asteroid can do a lot of damage
even if moving at subsonic speed, but a 1 kilogram plastic block
can completely destroy a tank, if it's moving at several
kilometers per second. This is the problem I have with ultra
high speed space travel. A tiny grain of sand can do tremendous
damage, if struck at a high enough speed. Similarly, a cloud of
hydrogen gas could cause a damaging amount of heating in a
spacecraft. That said, I don't discount the possibility of other
means of 'travel', but they won't be based on mainstream
physics, which, like any religion, is entrenched in a massive
politicized bureaucracy. (The US Congress is a fine example of
the latter)

Now, I am open to the theory of alien beings existing within our
environs. I am intrigued by the idea that alien beings could
have created self-replicating, sentient beings, sending them
across the galaxy to interact with other beings, or perhaps even
creating other civilizations. They might even have FTL
communication to home base! Perhaps these beings are self-
healing, and can exist 'forever'. The 'God Theory' suggests that
it's possible that _all_ sentient beings may have been 'created'
from _one_ source.

In any case, it's fun to speculate. Just don't pontificate. The
preponderance of evidence suggests that there are unknown
entities at work around here, otherwise most of us wouldn't be
on this List.

Best Regards,


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