From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:45:58 -0600 Archived: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:51:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence >From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:27:27 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence Jason, Ray, etc, Regarding AI, I'd like to offer a few thoughts. What we know of AI is strictly machine-oriented. Our computers are extremely complex products of a mind-bogglingly complex infrastructure. Recreating such an infrastructure by machines, for machines, is impractical, and not likely to happen. It makes sense, then, to consider the alternative of organic machines. Nature does a pretty good job of creating and sustaining life forms. In fact, our 'intelligence' has been a detrimental factor in our development as a species, but that's another topic, for another time. Creating an artificial organic infrastructure for the creating of artificial beings should be simple. After all, the hard work has been done, we just need to copy it. The reductionist approach used by science doesn't seem to have delivered on its promises. It looks like they don't really understand what's going on in an organic being. It's like trying to understand how a computer works by taking it apart. Gaining true knowledge of nature will require a paradigm shift in our social order. So far, no inclination towards such a shift has been manifested, and the future doesn't look so good, either. If the problems of creating artificial organic beings can be surmounted, what then? Aren't there more pressing issues to deal with? Really, why do we need artificial beings? We have robots. Do we need sentience in an AB? To what end? I'm not worried about sentient artificial beings taking over the world. If an AB is 'programmed' then it can't be sentient, it's a robot. A reasoning, sentient being hits his thumb with a hammer. It hurts. It realizes that it should avoid this behavior. It must also realize that such behavior will hurt others. It will also know that preserving the community is essential for survival. It's a rational being. Can we create rational beings? We are far from being rational. Would a 'race' of rational beings tolerate a world of highly irrational ones? Food for thought. I'm reminded of something I read a long time ago: "I'm not worried about computers taking over the world. We'll just put them on a committee!" During the Iraq invasion, an NPR reporter did a POV of a 'smart' bomb. After burrowing its way into a bunker, it looked at the occupants, huddling in fear, and, realizing they were the real victims, refused to detonate. I gotta go, Albert Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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