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Re: Artificial Intelligence

From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:45:58 -0600
Archived: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:51:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence


>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:27:27 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence

Jason, Ray, etc,

Regarding AI, I'd like to offer a few thoughts. What we know of
AI is strictly machine-oriented. Our computers are extremely
complex products of a mind-bogglingly complex infrastructure.
Recreating such an infrastructure by machines, for machines, is
impractical, and not likely to happen.

It makes sense, then, to consider the alternative of organic
machines. Nature does a pretty good job of creating and
sustaining life forms. In fact, our 'intelligence' has been a
detrimental factor in our development as a species, but that's
another topic, for another time.

Creating an artificial organic infrastructure for the creating
of artificial beings should be simple. After all, the hard work
has been done, we just need to copy it. The reductionist
approach used by science doesn't seem to have delivered on its
promises. It looks like they don't really understand what's
going on in an organic being. It's like trying to understand how
a computer works by taking it apart.

Gaining true knowledge of nature will require a paradigm shift
in our social order. So far, no inclination towards such a shift
has been manifested, and the future doesn't look so good,
either.

If the problems of creating artificial organic beings can be
surmounted, what then? Aren't there more pressing issues to deal
with? Really, why do we need artificial beings? We have robots.
Do we need sentience in an AB? To what end? I'm not worried
about sentient artificial beings taking over the world. If an AB
is 'programmed' then it can't be sentient, it's a robot. A
reasoning, sentient being hits his thumb with a hammer. It
hurts. It realizes that it should avoid this behavior. It must
also realize that such behavior will hurt others. It will also
know that preserving the community is essential for survival.
It's a rational being. Can we create rational beings? We are far
from being rational. Would a 'race' of rational beings tolerate
a world of highly irrational ones? Food for thought.

I'm reminded of something I read a long time ago:

"I'm not worried about computers taking over the world. We'll
just put them on a committee!"

During the Iraq invasion, an NPR reporter did a POV of a 'smart'
bomb. After burrowing its way into a bunker, it looked at the
occupants, huddling in fear, and, realizing they were the real
victims, refused to detonate.


I gotta go,

Albert




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