From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:34:16 -0000 Archived: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:31:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence >From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul> >Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:45:58 -0600 >Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence <snip> >Regarding AI, I'd like to offer a few thoughts. What we know of >AI is strictly machine-oriented. Our computers are extremely >complex products of a mind-bogglingly complex infrastructure. >Recreating such an infrastructure by machines, for machines, is >impractical, and not likely to happen. >It makes sense, then, to consider the alternative of organic >machines. Nature does a pretty good job of creating and >sustaining life forms. In fact, our 'intelligence' has been a >detrimental factor in our development as a species, but that's >another topic, for another time. <snip> >The reductionist approach used by science doesn't seem to have >delivered on its promises. It looks like they don't really >understand what's going on in an organic being. It's like trying >to understand how a computer works by taking it apart. <snip> >Can we create rational beings? We are far from being rational. >Would a 'race' of rational beings tolerate a world of highly >irrational ones? Food for thought. <snip> Thanks for that interesting post Albert, A top-of-the-head thought is that Nature already seems to create thinking beings with very limited resources (using Leibniz's principle of least effort/action maybe) without using reductionist techniques, which are rather duplicating and wasteful. I.e, latest research has shown that plant photo-synthesis, almost 100% efficient, seems to be accomplished by way of a `quantum connection' of some kind. And, rather weirdly, honeybees, whose tiny brains shouldn't be able to do very much by reductionist theories, actually achieve a great deal by way of `flag manifold' navigation and signalling - again probably a quantum field connection method. I'm tempted to speculate that many animals, and maybe earlier humans, relied on that `quantum connection' for their intelligence, rather like we'd use `the cloud' today for computing, and that modern humans, by choosing reductionist `pull-it-apart' methods, are now actually less intelligent than our pre-historic ancestors. [A 30,000 year loss of brain capacity (still continuing?) might bear that out.] A little verse by William Cowper says it all - "Reasoning at every step he treads, man yet mistakes his way; While meaner things whom instinct leads are rarely known to stray" Cheers Ray D Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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