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Re: Artificial Intelligence

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:34:16 -0000
Archived: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:31:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence

>From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:45:58 -0600
>Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence


>Regarding AI, I'd like to offer a few thoughts. What we know of
>AI is strictly machine-oriented. Our computers are extremely
>complex products of a mind-bogglingly complex infrastructure.
>Recreating such an infrastructure by machines, for machines, is
>impractical, and not likely to happen.

>It makes sense, then, to consider the alternative of organic
>machines. Nature does a pretty good job of creating and
>sustaining life forms. In fact, our 'intelligence' has been a
>detrimental factor in our development as a species, but that's
>another topic, for another time.


>The reductionist approach used by science doesn't seem to have
>delivered on its promises. It looks like they don't really
>understand what's going on in an organic being. It's like trying
>to understand how a computer works by taking it apart.


>Can we create rational beings? We are far from being rational.
>Would a 'race' of rational beings tolerate a world of highly
>irrational ones? Food for thought.


Thanks for that interesting post Albert,

A top-of-the-head thought is that Nature already seems to create
thinking beings with very limited resources (using Leibniz's
principle of least effort/action maybe) without using
reductionist techniques, which are rather duplicating and

I.e, latest research has shown that plant photo-synthesis,
almost 100% efficient, seems to be accomplished by way of a
`quantum connection' of some kind. And, rather weirdly,
honeybees, whose tiny brains shouldn't be able to do very much
by reductionist theories, actually achieve a great deal by way
of `flag manifold' navigation and signalling - again probably a
quantum field connection method.

I'm tempted to speculate that many animals, and maybe earlier
humans, relied on that `quantum connection' for their
intelligence, rather like we'd use `the cloud' today for
computing, and that modern humans, by choosing reductionist
`pull-it-apart' methods, are now actually less intelligent than
our pre-historic ancestors. [A 30,000 year loss of brain
capacity (still continuing?) might bear that out.]

A little verse by William Cowper says it all - "Reasoning at
every step he treads, man yet mistakes his way; While meaner
things whom instinct leads are rarely known to stray"


Ray D

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