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Re: Did Unknown Intruders Erase ICBM Target Codes?

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:22:51 -0600
Archived: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:18:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Did Unknown Intruders Erase ICBM Target Codes?


>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:49:55 -0000
>Subject: Re: Did Unknown Intruders Erase ICBM Target Codes?

>>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 00:38:59 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Did Unknown Intruders Erase ICBM Target Codes?

>>>>From: Robert Hastings <ufohastings.nul>
>>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 10:43:34 -0500 (EST)
>>>>Subject: Did Unknown Intruders Erase ICBM Target Codes?

>>>>My latest article is up at The UFO Chronicles:

>>>>http://tinyurl.com/7dqy29z

>>>>Yet Another Nuclear Missile Launch Officer Talks about UFOs at
>>>>F.E. Warren AFB:

>>>>Did the Unknown Intruders Erase ICBM Target Codes?

>>>><snip>

>>>>To summarize, here we have yet another former ICBM launch
>>>>officer saying that UFOs have repeatedly monitored and-according
>>>>to missile maintenance and targeting personnel-tampered with our
>>>>nuclear missiles.

><snip>

>>>Robert:

>>>I always enjoy reading your reports. You act as a reporter; just
>>>reporting the facts and leave analysis up to the reader.

>>>So, as a reader of your latest report, I have a question: why
>>>the hell would a so-called ET civilization be interested in
>>>erasing missile tapes and monitoring maintenance of nuclear
>>>missiles? To me doing so reeks of possible enemy combatants
>>>spying on our facilities.

>>>Yeah, I know foreign technology has been ruled out. The general
>>>line is that nobody has technology capable of doing the things
>>>to missiles that are being reported. Who is that sure where of
>>>they speak?

>>>I just have a problem with ET intervention into our missile
>>>sites. I am sure you have your reasons for thinking ETs are
>>>interested.

>>>I guess I need to hear a really sound argument.

>>This is the sort of thing that drives me nuts.

>>(1) The issue is a UFO report, not speculation about ETs.

>>(2) What in the world qualifies you to know what the ETs - you
>>know, the ones nobody but you is talking about - would or would
>>not do?

>>This kind of silliness is one good reason why UFO-related
>>discussions so seldom get anywhere.

>>What a load of tiresome nonsense. One would like to think we're
>>not children here, but sometimes I can't help fearing the worse.
>>This is one of those occasions.

>I really can't see why such a little thing should drive you nuts[,]
>Jerry.

>You say the issue is a UFO report, not speculation about ETs.

Kathy isn't the worst or most dogmatic offender here, and I
didn't mean to come down on her particularly. Sorry if I sounded
aggrieved at her personally. My target was a whole lot of lazy
thinking by persons who ought to know better, to wit, the
drearily familiar debunking plaint "If UFOs were real, they
wouldn't [fill in the blank]" - the sort of statement that
reflects only the dismisser's lack of knowledge, imagination, or
openness. It does not attest to his or her special knowledge of
the thoughts and actions of alien intelligences. (I suppose the
possibility remains that these individuals are secret
contactees, but that's probably not what they mean.)

Probably every one of us has his or her opinion of the Greater
Meaning of the UFO Phenomenon. We should put that aside,
however, when we consider a particular report and its
significance. In well-established fields, unlike ufology, there
are theories for which a body of strong, generally agreed-upon
evidence can reasonably be put to the fore when the judging of
new evidence is required. In a field as unformed and uncertain
as ufology, that's a bad idea; the data - usually, not always,
the testimonies of witnesses - must always be the primary
consideration.

In any event, I have no problem whatever - and I'm sure I'm far
from alone - conjuring up reasons why ETs might act in the
manner described in the report Robert Hastings passes on. But my
speculations have no more basis in established fact than do
Kathy's.

The truth of the matter is that we don't' know, and it doesn't
help matters to pretend that we do. Meantime, we have a case for
which investigation and analysis are necessary, not airy
speculation on what hypothetical other-intelligences are or are
not capable of or interested or not interested in doing.

That's all I meant to say. Not all that controversial. And I
apologize to Kathy if I sounded grumpier than I felt.


Jerry Clark




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