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Re: Sampling Earth's Biodiversity

From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul>
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:40:49 +0800
Archived: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:07:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Sampling Earth's Biodiversity

>From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:16:09 +0800
>Subject: Re: Sampling Earth's Biodiversity

Correction - I should have more closely read my reply before
hitting send - apologies)

>>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:11:41 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Sampling Earth's Biodiversity

>>>From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:37:25 +0800
>>>Subject: Sampling Earth's Biodiversity

>>>Speculative: On sampling Earth's biodiversity In Search For
>>>Novel Reactive Compounds


>>Three quick points::

>>1. Earth is the densest planet in the solar system implying
>>higher levels of such very high density metals as Rhenium,
>>Osmium, Gold tungsten, uranium,etc.. all of which have special
>>properties and appear to be rare in the stars of the local

>Interesting point. Does that mean you argue that such elements are
>unavailable for harvesting in the asteroid belt? Wouldn't Earth be
>made primarily of the same stuff as what existed in the dust ring

>during stellar formation? If so, doesn't that imply that such

during planetary formation? If so...

>materials are abundant elsewhere in the solar system?

>>2. While there is undoubtedly water on other bodies here, none
>>are covered with a deep ocean containing both readily accesible
>>life forms and, at the bottom, loads of relatively well
>>segrgated metals, diamonds, etc.

>So the argument here is not that water is special (we agree) but that
>certain metals and carbon forms are available in the oceans of Earth
>that aren't available elsewhere in the solar system. The words 'life
>forms', however, go right to my initial argument. Finding by accident,
>or modifying by intent, the genetic nature of a life form to produce
>specific molecular compounds is exactly what I'm driving at. Why
>sample the biodiversity of Earth without a purpose framed within

>Ultimately, I'm arguing that repeated visitations suggest some kind of
>rational 'self-interest' gain rather than expending the energy on a
>long term program to travel here out of 'pure research' intent.

>IMO: the best counter-argument against my suggestion is to presume the
>advent of self-replicating nanotechnology - akin to what Drexler
>proposes. However, if one were to guess that Drexler's goals are
>pie-in-the-sky and much more difficult to achieve than we imagine,

>than the 'harvesting novel molecular compounds' from life becomes a

then the 'harvesting novel....'

>viable option to achieve similar goals.


J. Maynard Gelinas

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