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Re: Types Of Aliens To Expect?

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:49:01 +0100
Archived: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:41:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Types Of Aliens To Expect?

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 19:02:04 -0500
>Subject: Re: Types Of Aliens To Expect?

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 00:27:42 +0100
>>Subject: Types Of Aliens To Expect?


>> www.ufoupdateslist.com/2012/jul/m03-001.shtml

>>Yet if we had pursued Wallace's theory of evolutionary
>>Platonism we would have to forecast humans improving morally
>>and ethically, as even Darwin (a notably unintelligent and
>>chauvinist man) was forced to admit was slowly happening.

>"Notably unintelligent and chauvinist" - as compared to you,

>What a strange thing to say about a seminal figure in the
>history of science and, beyond that, of human understanding

Hi Jerome, here's a sample:

Pangenesis - "all-producing" - a pet belief of Darwin's

Darwin thought that tiny particles called `gemmules' were
produced by body cells and that these eventually traveled to the
sex organs and influenced future offspring.

Importantly - Daewin thought these `gemmules' picked up on
parents' activities and passed those temporary traits on to any

That is, he thought skills or characteristics acquired during
the life of the parent could be inherited by offspring

note: Now we'd call that sort of belief `Lamarckian' - and

More - Darwin seriously speculated that these imaginary
`gemmules' passed from male to female in sperm and so might be a
reason for some women "coming to resemble their husbands".

note: Many women & men choose partners with the bone structure
of their parent(s), hence couples can often resemble each other
later in life. Check any newspaper archives.

Telegony -  "offspring at a distance" - a belief held from
before and through Victorian times.

Some folk, including Darwin, believed that males could somehow
pass on traits to later children of a woman, even though the
children were fathered by another man!

Unbelievably, Telegony was taught, and decreed as a fact in text
books for up to 70 years without any real attempt at
verification. No viable tests were ever made, the idea being
dropped from science fashion only when Mendel's basic logic
began to dominate.

More chauvinism from Darwin - in `The Origin of Species' he
began a chapter on sexual selection: "Man is more courageous,
pugnacious, and energetic than woman and has more inventive

note: When women have the chance of equal education they can
outshine men, and often have greater scientific integrity see

More of Darwin's sexist (+ racist) chauvinism, in `The Descent
of Man':- "Woman seems to differ from man in mental disposition
... these faculties are characteristic of the lower races, and
therefore of a past and lower state of civilization."


Personal note: only picked up on Wallace's theoretical extension
to `natural selection' when small research (more than a decade
ago) made me realize that violence in human society was actually
decreasing over the long-term. Later email discussions with a
guy at Stanford - who took the pessimist view - led me to put it
onto a web-page, see below. Then some more reading brought me to
the `Wallace Pages' of Prof. Charles H. Smith (Western Kentucky
University) who was very helpful.



A co-incidence allowed me to present the basic concept and
supporting statistics on a BBC radio program, where it was
received with disbelief (the media, along with police and
politicians have vested interests in keeping people scared so
always claim that "Violence is increasing").

You might see that Steven Pinker has recently also noticed these
facts (maybe he read the page:


it's been up about ten years or more).


Ray D

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