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Re: Dating Arnold

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:46:03 -0500
Archived: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:25:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Dating Arnold

>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:29:18 -0600
>Subject: Dating Arnold [was: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told]

>>From: Martin Shough<parcellular.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:27:33 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

>>>From: Don Ecsedy<don.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto<post.nul>
>>>Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400 (EDT)
>>>Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

>>>What is really of interest here - and correct me if I am wrong -
>>>but in 1947 all of the official statements and all the parties
>>>interviewed, including Arnold, said he had left for Tacoma on
>>>the 30th, not the 29th. It is only in The Coming Of The Saucers
>>>that Arnold says it was the 29th.

>>>So, where did the Air Force and the Navy get July 29th?

>>Excuse me for butting in, but this is an interesting point. I
>>hadn't noticed it before. You seem to be right, e.g. the FBI
>>interview report from SAC Butte does say that Arnold told him he
>>"left for Tacoma" on July 30, whereas Arnold's book gives July
>>29. Given that Arnold was writing several years later and was
>>not immune to other small date errors we should probably give
>>the benefit of the doubt to the near-contemporary documents.

>If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend the ten-part
>series "The Positively True Story of Kenneth Arnold" at


>which goes into great detail about this and other
>'inconsistencies', including outright fabrications, in the
>Coming of the Saucers version of Arnold's involvement in Maury
>Island affair. And while I suspect most or all of these were due
>to Ray Palmer, I have distinct unease with Arnold's apparent
>complicity in their publication.

I don't. Nor should anyone else. I knew Arnold, and his naivete
about Palmer lingered to the end of his days.

Arnold was an old-fashioned straight-shooter, Western variety.
Not just my opinion, of course. It was a view shared by those
who knew him, which gives them a step up on those for whom he is
no more than a target in print.

As I was working on the Maury Island entry for the encyclopedia
and examining the relevant materials, it occurred to me that
Arnold's honesty worked against him.  He couldn't imagine that
anyone else wouldn't be as he was.

As for the belated effort to smear Arnold, it's just another sad
example of how ufologists love to eat their own. The examples
are too numerous to count. (Travis Walton and Jesse Marcel come
immediately to mind.)  Sometimes it leads me to the sorry
conclusion that no one ever should report a UFO sighting to us.

Jerry Clark

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