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Re: Dating Arnold

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:10:25 -0500
Archived: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:09:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Dating Arnold

>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:49:43 -0600
>Subject: Re: Dating Arnold

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:54:54 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Dating Arnold

>>>From: Michael Tarbell<mtarbell.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:29:18 -0600
>>>Subject: Dating Arnold [was: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told]


>>>If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend the ten-part
>>>series "The Positively True Story of Kenneth Arnold" at


>>>which goes into great detail about this and other
>>>'inconsistencies', including outright fabrications, in the
>>>Coming of the Saucers version of Arnold's involvement in Maury
>>>Island affair. And while I suspect most or all of these were due
>>>to Ray Palmer, I have distinct unease with Arnold's apparent
>>>complicity in their publication.

>>Actually, I would be surprised if Arnold ever read the book.
>>Arnold was not a reader of anything not directly related to

>>He simply trusted Ray Palmer to take care of things, which is
>>why he made the mistake of passing on a book offer from
>>Doubleday and taking Palmer's assurances that they should co-
>>author (or at least co-byline) a book on their own. Arnold never
>>saw a cent from The Coming of the Saucers. Amazingly, even so,
>>he didn't hold a grudge against Palmer for that.

>I _would_ speculate, however, that neither you nor I would
>knowingly allow a book to be published, with our name listed as
>one of two co-authors, without having personally reviewed/edited
>the material in it. Hence my unease with Arnold having
>apparently done so. I make due note that you knew him and
>evidently do not find this particularly troubling or surprising.
>For my own part it has not diminished my interest in the
>original Mt. Rainier incident.

I think that the point is that neither you nor I resemble the
likes of Kenneth Arnold much.  I presume we are both honest and
well-meaning as was Arnold, but beyond that, you and I grasp,
and think in terms of, formal logic, history, and all that flow
from them. In my experience - anyone who has received an
unsourced e-mail from an unread uncle will know what I mean - a
great many people don't. Arnold, who lived in an oral world in
which printed communication existed only to communicate
technical information, knew what happened to him, and that's all
he needed to know. I suspect he also felt he didn't need to read
about it.

(Broadly related: A few of you may recall a statement credited
to Arnold and circulated through fringe saucer literature in the
1950s. In the statement, supposed in Arnold's own words, he
reports that invisible beings had made their presence known in
his house. When I met him, I asked about that. He'd never heard
the story before and said it wasn't true.)

Years ago, after meeting Arnold, the woman to whom I was then
married remarked with something approaching incredulity on how
unimaginative he was, how pedestrian his concerns, and how
little he cared about things that would excite anybody with
curiosity and an engagement with the larger world. I recall
thinking once that if it were not for UFOs, Arnold and I would
have had not a thing in common. I suspect that if you'd met him,
something of the same would have crossed your mind.

Arnold was an old-fashioned Westerner, a hardly unfamiliar type
to those who know something of that fading culture, whose life
was business, family, and friends. Just about anything that
concerns us, he left to Ray Palmer - as we see now, providing a
target for the unfriendly fire that seeks, through him, to wound
all linked to the UFO phenomenon.

Jerry Clark

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