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Re: Inter-Dimensional Or Demonic

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 15:08:26 -0000
Archived: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 04:34:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Inter-Dimensional Or Demonic


>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:13:57 -0800
>Subject: Re: Inter-Dimensional Or Demonic

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 22:10:01 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Inter-Dimensional Or Demonic

>><snip>

>>First, I don't think there's a single 'normal sighted person'
>>on this Earth who would be reliable when trying to describe
something which was truly alien to his/her learned perceptions.

<snip>

>Finally Ray, FYI the retina IS part of the brain, an outcropping
>of neural tissue facing outward that arises early in
>development. Unless there is some defect, it has a one-to-one
>topographic mapping of the image formed on it, which is
>transmitted to the brain and reflected in the one-to-one mapping
>there, determined through electrophysiological recordings.

Hi David, have had to snip much of your (long) post, which
contains many statements presented as 'facts' - like that above.

However, in that particular case, although the optic nerve is
considered to be 'part of' the brain's neural tissue, there is
an interface (still somewhat mysterious) which converts raw
impulses from the eye into 'pixel-screen' images - constructed
and displayed at the _back_ of the brain. And, as noted by
researchers, the flow of data along the optic nerve is two-way
(as with hearing). Clearly the brain is constantly telling the
eye _how_ and _what_ to see.

Accordingly, experiments show that when a new-born kitten is
prevented from seeing a particular shape (say a diagonal line at
a precise angle) for the first weeks of life, then the adult
will never be able to 'see' that shape or line. No matter how
important for the cat's survival - actual objects with that
shape will be invisible to the cat's brain!

In short, what we 'see' is not Reality, not even an
approximation, but merely a translation of some selected parts
of 'Reality' which would be useful to a tree-living ape.

On a lighter but still realistic note, a glance at Youtube will
show many video shorts from Dr Richard Haines

http://www.nicap.org/bios/haines.htm

and in his introductions he explains that he originally tried to
use his knowledge of optics and vision (by which he could fool
an astronaut into seeing things which weren't there, or make one
shape seem like another) to 'debunk' pilots' UFO sightings.
Failing to do so, he then became interested in the subject and
has made an impressive collection of cases, presented in some of
those videos.

Haines is a deeply practical scientist, with a gift for clear
presentation of facts and he knows how our perceptions can be
altered drastically. I.e. just look at all those rather simple
'optical illusions' available on the Web. And they are only the
ones which are easy to inflict on us via a screen.

Other scientists confirm this (in different ways):

"Brukner and Kofler showed that it does not matter how many
particles are around, or how large an object is, quantum
mechanics always holds true. The reason we see our world as we
do is because of what we use to observe it. The human body is a
just barely adequate measuring device. Quantum mechanics does
not always wash itself out, but to observe its effects for
larger and larger objects we would need more and more accurate
measurement devices. We just do not have the sensitivity to
observe the quantum effects around us. In essence we do create
the classical world we perceive, and as Brukner said, "There
could be other classical worlds completely different from ours."

-- http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_reality_tests/P3/

"We think we know what's out there in the physical world, but
it's all interpreted by our brains. Everything we sense is an
illusion to a degree." - Vanderbilt University

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/11/031104063920.htm

"There must be a lot out there that we have never learned to see
at all - it's part of the real universe, but we can't get it
into our brains." - The Collapse Of Chaos by Profs. Ian Stewart
& Jack Cohen  ISBN 0-670-84983-9

Which is why Sir Martin Rees said: "They could be staring us in
the face and we just don't recognize them. ...I suspect there
could be life and intelligence out there in forms we can't
conceive ... it could be there as aspects of reality that are
beyond the capacity of our brains."


Cheers

Ray D





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