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Re: On The Physics Of Physical Mediumship

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 08:30:16 -0500
Archived: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:00:11 -0500
Subject: Re: On The Physics Of Physical Mediumship

>From: Michael M. Hughes<michaelmhughes.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates<post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 10:05:51 -0500
>Subject: Re: On The Physics Of Physical Mediumship

>>From: Dave Haith<visions1.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates<post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:42:34 -0000
>>Subject: Re: On The Physics Of Physical Mediumship

>>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 18:34:29 -0500
>>>Subject: On The Physics Of Physical Mediumship

>>>I attended my first physical mediumship seance recently at a
>>>workshop on the Costa del Sol, Spain. The medium was Kai Muegge
>>>from the Felix Experimental Group in Frankfurt. Among other
>>>things, there was the usual table levitation demonstration,
>>>balls of light flitting around the room, and a display of
>>>ectoplasm. Possibly of primary interest to this list is a
>>>message from Wilbert Smith passed on to the group by the spirit
>>>control, the deceased Prof. Hans Bender. The spirit control is
>>>the personality on the 'other side' that works through the
>>>medium to create phenomena.


>I've been fascinated by mediumship for a long time. As a
>mentalist, however, I know that all of those alleged
>manifestations=97balls of light, table lifting/titling, and
>ectoplasm=97can be readily faked.

>Were these manifestations documented by video? Were there
>controls on the medium=97and if so, what were they?

>I'm not saying this to suggest there was fakery involved, but if
>there were no controls and no recording of the events, I'm
>afraid I can't give it a lot of attention.

Whether or not there were controls is a valid point. I
personally checked out the room both before and after the seance
and found no items present that could be used as tools. The
medium was strip searched by one of the sitters at his own
request just before entering the room. At critical times during
the seance, what is called a "four-limb control" was placed on
the medium by two people sitting near him to confirm that the
medium was immobile as phenomena occurred two meters away. Most
of the time the room was dark. Occasionally a dim red light was
used, particularly during the display of ectoplasm. There was no
video record.

The same medium has a blog showing a number of photographs of
ectoplasm coming from his mouth. These are said to be the first
ever such photos taken in full light.


The initial session where table levitation occurred happened a
few hours after everyone had arrived, also in a dark room. The
table felt level when it lifted, so all four legs had to be off
the floor. Attempts were made to turn on the red light when
there was levitation.

As a participant, I think that there was probably ideomotor
activity that caused some of the movement of the table. However,
the table lifted more than six inches and that cannot be
explained by cumulative small horizontal forces. It would have
required much more strength than any of us had to lift it from
one side while seated with hands outstretched on top of the
table. We were sitting elbow-to-elbow, so would have noticed any
suspicious activity by our neighbors. Two people sitting
opposite each other might have done it, but I have no reason to
believe there was such collaboration.

Operating in full light is said to inhibit these kinds of
phenomena. As an analogy (mine), a match won't light under water
either, so maybe light does throw a damper on this kind of
activity. Or the darkened room might just facilitate a coherent
group behavior. The group's 'energy' was said to be an important


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