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Re: Physics Theorist In Synchrony With Wilbert

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:44:38 -0400
Archived: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:05:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Physics Theorist In Synchrony With Wilbert

>From: Gerald O'Connell<goc.nul>
>Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:27:47 +0100
>Subject: Re: Physics Theorist In Synchrony With Wilbert Smith

>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates<post.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:40:43 -0400
>>Subject: Physics Theorist In Synchrony With Wilbert Smith

>>A while ago I mentioned to the List that I was given a message
>>from Wilbert Smith at a physical mediumship seance. In
>>particular, he suggested that his experiments on gravity in the
>>1950's could be improved by adding an element of Podkletnov's
>>1992 experiment which also produced a gravitational effect.

>>Of interest here is another cryptic message from Wilbert about
>>the nature of ectoplasm. He said, "ectoplasm has the ability to
>>form the world, to give the codes to all things that develop to
>>more complexity. These codes do not come from your realm but
>>from higher ones".

>>There is a rather stunning similarity between Smith's
>>interpretation of the meaning of ectoplasm and the conclusion of
>>an article by S. James Gates reprinted from Physics World at:


>>and discussed in a blog at:


>>Gates, a theoretical physicist, discusses how the equations
>>describing supersymmetry (SUSY) can be mapped to a geometric
>>representation. This representation shows us that the structure
>>of fundamental particles has a digital component which includes
>>a form of the Hamming error correcting code.

>>Gates says, "with the observation that structures from
>>information theory - codes - control the structure of equations
>>with the SUSY property, we may be crossing a barrier. I know of
>>no other example of this particular intermingling occurring at
>>such a deep level. Could it be that codes, in some deep and
>>fundamental way, control the structure of our reality?"

>>He suggests that the existence of the digital error correcting
>>code means that the world at a fundamental level may be a
>>digital virtual reality. He says, "let us imagine that this
>>alternative Matrix-style world contains some theoretical
>>physicists, and that one of them asks, 'How could we discover
>>whether we live inside a Matrix?'. One answer might be 'Try to
>>detect the presence of codes in the laws that describe

>>I put it to you that this theoretical development is very close
>>to Wilbert Smith's description of ectoplasm as having "the
>>ability to form the world, to give the codes to all things that
>>develop to more complexity. These codes do not come from your
>>realm but from higher ones".

>>Smith's definition says that the things that develop to more
>>complexity (i.e., fundamental particles) are given form by codes
>>that come from outside of our physical reality. This sounds very
>>close to the world implied by Gates' theoretical development.

>OK William, so here's another morsel of coincidence for you to
>chew on: I quote 'Isaac' of CARET infamy:

>"They had something akin to a language, that could quite
>literally execute itself, at least in the presence of a very
>specific type of field. The language, a term I am still using
>very loosely, is a system of symbols (which does admittedly very
>much resemble a written language) along with geometric forms and
>patterns that fit together to form diagrams that are themselves
>functional. Once they are drawn, so to speak, on a suitable
>surface made of a suitable material and in the presence of a
>certain type of field, they immediately begin performing the
>desired tasks." Found at:


>Gates and his colleagues have been working on adinkras since
>2005 and 'Isaac' went public in 2007. Wheeler's "it from bit"
>concept surfaced in 1990, and 'Isaac' claims to have been
>working with the CARET material during the decade prior to that.
>Which came first, the Science or the Fiction?

Hi Gerald, it's not all that clear to me which you would
categorize as Science and as Fiction. Since you ask which came
first, it must have been one of the earlier sources of
information you mention. So, if CARET is a candidate for the
preceding Science or Fiction, then you must believe Isaac's
story that he was working on it in the mid 1980's. Otherwise,
there is no reason to think that it was created much earlier
than 2007, and so could not have influenced Wheeler and Gates.

But if you believe that the CARET material was developed in the
1980s, you must also think it is non-Fiction. Apparently, you
are not alone. In a review article on Isaac and the CARET
material, the author comments that "the Drone enigma is
seemingly powered entirely by belief, regardless of what that
belief is as both the pro-real and the pro-hoax camps inevitably
'feed the demon' with their convictions".


So there does not seem to be incontrovertible proof one way or
the other. Maybe it's Fiction, maybe it's not.

In any case, I don't see that tight a link between the CARET
material you cite and Gates' conclusion or Smith's comment on
ectoplasm. The latter are talking about the fundamentals of
physical reality, while the CARET material describes a novel
technology apparently designed by some intelligence.

The only coincidence I might see is that the ET designers brought
the drones into being by inserting the drone 'language' codes
into the Matrix machine, creating the drone just like ectoplasm
is created in a seance. Perhaps this is what you had in mind.


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