From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:28:10 -0400 Archived: Thu, 10 May 2012 14:09:18 -0400 Subject: Re: "Alien Abductions Are Actually Lucid Dreams" >From: Kathy Kasten<catraja.nul> >To:<post.nul> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:41:18 +0000 >Subject: Re: "Alien Abductions Are Actually Lucid Dreams" >>From: Dave Haith<visions1.nul> >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto<post.nul> >>Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 18:58:12 +0100 >>Subject: "Alien Abductions Are Actually Lucid Dreams" >>Finally, the alien abduction mystery is solved! >>----- >>Source: HuffPo >>http://tinyurl.com/88hxfwm >>05/08/2012 >>'Alien Abduction' Research Suggests Episodes Are Actually Lucid >>Dreams >>By: Natalie Wolchover >Nowhere in the article are the actual studies or data cited. As >with most reporters, they are lazy and just looking to write a >story as fast as possible. Please, the entire abduction scenario >started with comics of the 40s and 50s? I cite just one of the >assumptions of the author of the article. "Recent experiment"? >What recent experiment? Done where? By whom? Geez, somebody >actually hired this person as a reporter? Why? As a mouth piece >for the establishment? A phrase we used to use in the advocacy >movement. From what people say about abduction and lucid dream experiences, there appears to be at least one major inconsistency between them. The lucid dream, by definition, is one in which the dreamer is in control of the dream. This is definitely not the impression given in abductee reports. The experiencers are very much not in control, and that is what scares them most. Graham Hancock, in his book Supernatural, describes seeing an alien being somewhat like the stereotypical gray while in a drug-induced shamanic trance. There was also a metallic saucer- shaped craft in the area. He says he felt somewhat fearful and was able to leave the scene. This experience might also correspond to the abduction experience if it were not for his ability to change it. However, his apprehension suggests that he feared losing volition, so it may have developed into the abduction scenario if he had let it. Wolchover's article seems to trivialize the abduction experience by suggesting it is equivalent to the harmless and often enjoyable lucid dream. The problem is that lucid dreaming is not well understood either, so she explains one mysterious phenomenon with another. In both cases, though, one could argue that universal archetypes are encountered. An archetype is thought to be a transpersonal framework which is colored by personal history, and that explains why some details could be influenced by social stereotypes and past experiences. But the origin of the archetype is still a mystery. William Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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