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Re: Reality? - "Mental Processes Shut Down Without

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:06:48 -0300
Archived: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:59:43 -0400
Subject: Re: Reality? - "Mental Processes Shut Down Without

>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:46:58 +0100
>Subject: Re: Reality? - "Mental Processes Shut Down Without Our Knowledge"

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 13:31:47 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Reality? - "Mental Processes Shut Down Without OurKnowledge"

>>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 11:02:50 +0100
>>>Subject: Reality? - "Mental Processes Shut Down Without Our



>>Fascinating stuff, Ray. You on the right List? Ropes for snakes,
>>gnats for mosquitos perfect in detail as seen from the corner of
>>the eye. Are the rest of us - except KK - supposed to read
>>something into these revelations? If so you've never been in the
>>field have you?

>Hello Don,

>The accumulating evidence says that we cannot trust our brains:
>they lie to us by ignoring `painful' words (when that can't
>endanger us) and will lie again by creating non-existent shapes
>(i.e snakes - when it might be advantageous).

>Seems to me that should be considered as important by anyone
>investigating witness perceptions of phenomena, especially high
>strangeness phenomena.

>Even if you happen to possess the one brain on the planet which
>is unaffected by such influences. [Or thinks it is.]

I think you draw too long a bow, paint with too broad a brush.
That's my complaint with the psychological approach to the
phenomenon. Were we to believe your take on this as an
explanation for many reports then we'd have to treat any input
into the human brain as unreliable.

No more brain surgery, no more airliners flying, no more highway
systems flooded with tens of thousands of travellers in close
proximity. Houston would always have a problem, the police would
be shooting to kill because of misperception or the possibility
of same.

This psychological bent is a cop-out as I suggested to KK who
seems to have these issues with some kind of intervention in
her life that she wants explained but she doesn't want it to be
"alien" - better just plain psychological.

She did not reply to that BTW.

As for me, I have to rely on visual as well as sensory cues when
I'm flying VFR. Any threats to that come during IFR flight due
to the deprivation of visual clues, not because of them. Then
the rule is to go visual of instruments which are unaffected by
inner ear stimuli-though mechanical failure is not out of the

To throw thousands of years of experience out the window on some
vague idea that you have of how we walk through everyday life
without encountering these psychological roadblocks at every
turn to satisfy some need to explain away personal problems with
a non-science such as psychology is not only my take on it, but
billions of others as well. I'm not the exception but the rule.

Those that buy into this theory have a personal axe to grind. To
try and convince the rest of us that what they believe is indeed
fact so as to deal with their personal demons (don't know about
you, Ray) is a way for them to get some comfort when they get
affirmation from others. But then what happens is that the baby
gets thrown out with the bathwater over a few cases when there
are in fact millions now.

That doesn't compute in my universe.

Don Ledger

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