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Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

From: James Carrion <james_carrion.nul>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 10:46:53 -0600
Archived: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:45:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told


>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 16:25:24 +0200
>Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:29:52 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told


>That's a good joke, Kathy.

>The more you study honestly UFOs, the more you realize that they do exist.
>There is no escaping that.

>Carrion claimed the opposite. It proves his dishonesty.

>I've known Carrion's arguments since his speech at the MUFON Symposium of
>2009, and they are worthless to me.

>As General Bermudez, of Chile's Air Force put it: "The reality of UFOs is
>beyond doubt".

>Kathy, I suggest that you study why he said that. I met him in Curitiba,
>Brazil, in 2007, and I know is is not a fool. Like so many other serious
>people.


Gildas,

When have I ever claimed that UFOs do not exist?

My research is focused on 1947, specifically the period that
covers Maury Island, Kenneth Arnold and Roswell. What happened
before and what happened after is not within my scope of
research as unlike most Ufologists and believers, I don't throw
all the evidence in one large multi-millennium bucket from which
one tries to explain the phenomenon.

So don't call me dishonest in my approach, rather it is focused.
If I can prove that Maury Island, Kenneth Arnold and Roswell
were part of the same Cold War deception operation, well, you
still have what came before and came after to hang on to. I am
not trying to convince you or anyone else whose mind is already
made up on this subject. I doubt that even if the Government
came out and fessed up to their Cold War deception, that you
would believe it - instead you would probably claim that surely
it has to be another ploy of the "cover up".

Calling my opinions worthless sounds like something that would
normally fall out of the mouth of Phil Klass or the folks over
at CSI.

Jerry labeled me a Conspiracy Theorist, Dave Morton a fool, and
you are calling me a liar. I venture none of you have even read
my paper on the Project Seal disinformation campaign from June
1947 two weeks prior to Maury Island/Kenneth Arnold, nor could
you offer any sort of explanation for it because it doesn't fit
within your UFO view.

Labels mean nothing, hard evidence means everything. COINTELPRO
would still be a conspiracy theory today if the Citizens'
Commission to Investigate the FBI did not break into the FBI
field office in Media, Pennsylvania, and expose the program by
passing the information to news agencies. Even then, many news
organizations initially refused to publish the information.

I can't wait to see what you will label me next.


James



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