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Re: Problems With von Neumann Replicators

From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 14:56:21 -0300
Archived: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:53:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Problems With von Neumann Replicators


>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 14:29:57 +0100
>Subject: Problems With von Neumann Replicators

>So, if we're not the first intelligence to evolve, why haven't
>we already been wiped out by murderous advanced machines from
>space? That's a question I woke up with - but then re-thought
>some of Reynolds' more complex human-machine scenarios.

That's Fermi's Paradox. It was formulated almost as soon as
advances in cosmology established the Universe is billions of
years old, and that there are billions and billions of galaxies
as large or even larger than ours.

http://tinyurl.com/2hg2qn

>The creation and release of 'replicators' is an irresistible
>temptation for greedy and impatient humans - so it's probably
>been done. And the only realistic reason I can think of for us
>not being under attack from ungoverned machines is that they
>might see us as a resource.

We don't have any material resources which cannot be found
elsewhere in higher quantities and greater convenience for any
civilization capable of crossing light-years of distance to get
here. And even if we are a resource for our intelligence or
biological uniqueness, the fact we cannot see any obvious signs
of intelligente life in the Universe elsewhere -- besides the
'controversial' UFO evidence -- must mean they are either
deliberately hiding or that they don't exist.

Both alternatives are not very resonable, and Fermi's Paradox
remains one of the greatest questions of our time. It's
interesting that such kind of questions remain open and yet are
not that widely recognized -- for instance, cosmology gives us
yet another puzzle, the faint young Sun paradox:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faint_young_Sun_paradox

Interestingly, both the Fermi and the Faint Young Sun paradoxes
were popularized by Carl Sagan.




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