From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 18:34:48 +0100 Archived: Sun, 20 May 2012 17:47:52 -0400 Subject: Re: 7F Basket Of Ufology ----- From: George Wingfield <momusone.nul> To: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 Subject: Re: 7F Basket Of Ufology >From: Diana Cammack <cammack.nul> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul> >Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:11:54 +0200 >Subject: Re: 7F Basket Of Ufology >>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> >>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul> >>Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:37:39 +0100 >>Subject: 7F Basket Of Ufology >>Long time UFO researcher and pal of mine George Wingfield has >>been sounding off about the 'snake oil salesmen' of Ufology. >>http://www.bikebob.org/TrueBelievers.html >>Here's a snippet from his piece at the link above: >>"At this stage I believe that it is useful to list some cases of >>alleged ET contact that serious UFO researchers have firmly >>consigned to what I call the "7F Basket". >>The '7F' signifies falsehood, fiction, fantasy, fraud, fakery, >>folklore and flapdoodle. >>Here are ten examples of well known cases that can be firmly >>consigned to the 7F Basket of ufology:-" >Ok, maybe he'd like to make a list of ten cases that are widely >held by experts (including himself) to be true? I've been asked to produce a list of ten cases of alien contact which I believe are genuine and which are also held by other UFO experts to be true. First let me say I don't claim to be an "expert" in this subject but I have taken an active interest in it for 25 years and I've met many of the people who are making or promoting various claims of alien contact. Secondly, let's make a firm distinction between claims of actual alien contact and the many remarkable UFO encounters or sightings, which usually do not involve contact with the supposed UFO occupants. Credible witnesses to the latter often say they felt certain that the craft they saw were not of earthly origin. There are many cases of the latter to choose from. I fully accept many of these at face value and I have no reason to believe that witnesses have been less than truthful in their reporting of what they experienced. These cases would include the Rendlesham Forest events and the various witnesses to those such as Colonel Charles Halt and others. There are the extraordinary sightings of (mainly) vast triangular UFOs which occurred in the area of the Hudson Valley during the years 1983 -1986 (these are described in detail in the book "Night Siege - the Hudson Valley UFO Sightings" by Dr J Allen Hynek, Philip Imbrogno and Bob Pratt). Then, there was a wave of similar triangular UFO sightings over Belgium a few years later and the testimony of Major General Wilfried de Brouwer of the Belgian Air Force. In all of the cases, and many others which I won't list here, multiple witnesses saw UFOs and some often said they did not believe these craft could have come from this planet. If you want a collection of what I think are some of the best genuine UFO cases there is probably no better place to start than the book 'UFOs - Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record' (2010) by Leslie Kean. This book has concentrated on UFO fact and has studiously avoided those controversial claims of alien contact and alien abductions despite the author's close association with the late Budd Hopkins who was the leading proponent of such beliefs. The real experts who have probably contributed more to the understanding of the UFO subject than anyone else are Jacques Vallee and John B Alexander. I strongly recommend books by them on this subject. Both of them are also pretty good at indicating which are the myths and claims of ufology that belong firmly in what I call the 7F basket. The many claims of alien contact by the flying saucer "contactees" of the 1950s and 1960s proved that large numbers of people were obsessed with the idea of alien contact and fantasized how that might happen and how they might be a key player in such contact. After all, if such contact did occur it would make them instant celebrities and utterly change their lives. So, many of the contactees announced their fantastic claims and often wrote books about their alleged experiences with ETs. After the Betty and Barney Hill case went public in 1965 the myth of alien abduction gradually became accepted by mainstream US ufology despite some opposition in MUFON and other serious UFO research groups. By 1987 after publication of books by Budd Hopkins and by Whitley Strieber this subject virtually took over US ufology and literally thousands of people started to believe that they might have been abducted by aliens. By something akin to the hundredth monkey effect anyone connected with the UFO subject was at least made to consider whether they might be an alien abductee. All sorts of abduction gurus came forward to offer hypnotic regression and, unsurprisingly, a large proportion of the hypnosis subjects produced "suppressed memories" of being taken aboard a UFO and being medically examined by small gray aliens. In a 1991 Roper Poll it was found that 119 of the 6,000 polled responded in a way that Hopkins interpreted as indicating they had been abducted by aliens. Based on this poll, he extrapolated a figure suggesting four million Americans might have been abducted by extraterrestrials. To most people that seemed utterly absurd -- quite apart from the difficulties the aforesaid aliens would have and their wherewithal to conduct such an operation. I have met quite a few "abductees" who claim or believe they have been abducted by aliens. Some of them have said they are more or less besieged by small gray aliens, reptilian aliens, or sometimes praying mantis-style aliens. Some of these nightmare encounters appear to have a strong sexual or reproductive theme. Do I believe these people have actually experienced physical events like this, as they insist? Quite frankly, no. There is no proof that these supposed memories ever had any basis in physical reality and many serious researchers believe that the experiences come chiefly from the imagination, from fantasies, from lucid dreams or vivid dreams, and possibly from false memories. Interactions between humans and non-humans have been recorded by people throughout history and certainly long before the modern UFO era. Whether today's "alien abductions" are different in nature, and whether or not they are connected with visitation by ETs in UFOs is highly questionable. I'm not saying that human interaction with aliens has never occurred but I've yet to hear any story of contact with ET of which we can be positively certain. George Wingfield ----- Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. 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