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Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

From: Don Ecsedy <don.nul>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 20:50:23 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Thu, 24 May 2012 18:52:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

>From: James Carrion <jcarrion.nul
>To: <post.nul
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:34:50 -0300
>Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told

>Two weeks after this "airborne superweapon" broke, a flurry of
>reports from the American Northwest seemed to confirm that the
>Americans were in possession of incredible airborne technology.
>Not only were many normal citizens witnessing these incredible
>objects, but the American military forces were hard at work
>trying to convince that they were engaging in a cover up of
>physical evidence. Roswell was one of these "cover ups" but a
>review of other alleged crashed saucers during this time show a
>similar pattern of cover up.

Kenneth Arnold's story and the rest of the press stories during
the wave did not confirm anything in the Leech super weapon
story. No one, as far as I know, in the press ever connected the
two and published about it during the wave, nor was it brought
forward by any 'sources' in the military or government. I don't
know if it was ever mentioned during or after the wave. If it
was, I haven't found the story, and if you have citations to
such news stories, please offer them here. So far, it looks like
as a disinformation operation it seems to have failed to

There is nothing I can see wrong in your research, as presented
in the New Avenues For UFO Research article, however, if you are
intent on single sourcing the 47 wave, the devil is being able
to only logically connect events rather than being able to prove
the connection. This seems to be happening in your
interpretation of Roswell and Maury Island. They were both
civilian cases (as were Smith, and Rhodes) with no known
connection to military bases or "objects", yet the CIC was all
over them. Perhaps, that was what offended Hoover.

Often 'Disinformation' is merely an opinion; Colonel or General
so and so's opinion, written on military stationary, becomes an
"official statement" and a matter of "fact" in many accounts of
the wave. There were factions within the emerging USAF and
between the existing branches, as well as political factions
between and within the two political parties. This was about
money, budgets, career, rank, and command.

>"Flying Saucer" witnesses were kept under constant
>counterintelligence surveillance to observe which individuals
>and organizations expressed an interest. These "canary traps"
>would help identify the principle subversive forces at work. In
>other words, this operation was one of the first Cold War
>counterintelligence offensives conducted. To deceive the Soviets
>required deceiving the American public first, hence the birth of
>the modern day UFO era.

Besides Venture Publications, what subversive forces were found?
I do not believe even Hoover gave more than a cynical snort at
the "subversives" or the Soviet disc mother plane stories.

>To pull off the operation, the planners needed the willing
>cooperation and/or manipulated cooperation of the American
>Press. To make the superweapon convincing, it was important that
>normal US citizens be the ones to initially report their
>sightings. Key players within the newswire organizations and
>newspapers were recruited or manipulated into the news frenzy.
>The sensational news stories could be used as a "Gardening"
>technique to break the Soviet code after the existing Venona
>Project decoding was no longer effective. Gardening originated
>in WW2 when the British planted false news stories in the Press
>that they knew the Germans would be interested in and their
>agents would encode and send back to HQ. Knowing what was
>encoded would help the British code breakers at Bletchley Park
>reverse engineer the encoding system.

Since the press didn't mention the Leech superweapon story
during the wave and connect it to the flying saucers, I don't
see what the point is. What is there to say except as disinfo,
it failed? The "news frenzy" didn't exist, except locally. The
two big city dailies in my hometown barely noted the wave, for
example. But cities and towns which had had sightings did. Boise
probably had more stories about the saucers in a month that
summer, than my hometown dailies have ever had.

And what would be the point of "gardening" in peacetime? During
the war with the disruption of communications and
transportation, it makes sense, but when the Post or the Times
could be delivered daily to the Kremlin or the Lubyanka, why
would any Soviet agent code-up a press story? In the news
stories during the wave, one can summarize military 'official'
opinion as: they aren't ours (which answers to a common opinion)
and they aren't interplanetary (which had nobody asked about).

>The operation succeeded. Which spies and organizations were
>outed by the operation is not completely known (but the records
>are sitting in classified archives) and these elements were
>quietly eliminated either by outright deportation, movement to
>positions of less trust and prosecution of spy rings.

The only case I'm aware of during the wave wasn't espionage, but
the illegal posssession of top secret documents. That's the two
army sergeants case. It has a local connection for me and was
followed closely here (or at least the case of one sergeant who
was from my hometown and tried here). As best I can tell, this
might have been a show trial to warn off the army from
attempting to regain control of atomic r&d from civilian
authority. I'd guess the military's major concern during the
wave was a congressional investigation into military secret
projects budgets, and for the Army Air Forces, the fear of a
last ditch attempt to delay the formation of the USAF. The
flying saucer wave was just crazy enough to lead to that worst
case scenario.




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